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Old 05-18-2020, 06:35 PM
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Former president Obama--in an obvious shot at President Trump and his administration--stated Saturday (5/16/20) that many there "aren't even pretending" to know what they are doing.

And if President Trump had just left that alone, that would have been the entire story: A former president had just taken a gratuitous shot at the current president.

But President Trump--being the "counterpuncher" that he claims to be--just could not leave this alone, and allow Barack Obama (and him alone) to be seen as undignified.

Instead, he shot back that the former president was "grossly incompetent."

(Actually, I think that Obama was quite competent--sadly--in pushing the country further to the left.)

Neither came out looking dignified, in this dustup.

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I found it odd that Obama would venture into Trump's home court...

I'm guessing that either he's frustrated at Trump for reminding Americans how great America is and reversing Obama-era stifling, or believes it's election season so it's time to get dirty...
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For Obama it was all about preserving the fundamental transformation as a foundation for full blown "democratic" socialism. But the recent release of documents beginning to expose his personal involvement in the sabotage campaign against Trump has kindled a new fire under the so-called scandal free President. Not only would a Bunker Joe victory preserve Obama's legacy, it would shut down further investigation of the KGB style campaign of political sabotage he not only sanctioned but actively participated in orchestrating.

The nostalgic sanctification of Obama as dignified and above the fray ignores his history. In his Senate run his allies in the media used a California judge to crack open his opponent's sealed divorce papers. There was nothing to be found but the Obama enchanted media continously referred to the divorce as due to some dark secret. Later the dignified President made a racist appeal to blacks and "chicanos" to turn out and vote Democrat in the mid term. Obama exhorted "vote Republican for dirty air and dirty water". Obama attacked the local police department after admitting he didn't know the facts of the situation for arresting his friend. While Americans were under terrorist attack at Benghazi the dignified Obama retired to the WH family quarters so he could be well rested for a campaign trip to Las Vegas the following day. While the ruins of the consulate were still smoldering and the remains of the slain Americans were being repatriated Obama was enjoying himself on a road trip. Of course Obama disciples will defend each of the instances on this incomplete list as somehow warranted ignoring the lack of dignity displayed by each.
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I've been incredibly frustrated with Obama's unwillingness to go after the clown who succeeded him. He gave the house keys to an arsonist, but has said barely a word as the guy sets fire after fire.

(And if you think that Obama started this with his mild comments on Saturday, you're nuts. Trump has spent three years lying about Obama and was stupidly calling him a criminal just a week ago.)
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(And if you think that Obama started this with his mild comments on Saturday, you're nuts. Trump has spent three years lying about Obama and was stupidly calling him a criminal just a week ago.)
This is amazing...

The complaint is that the guy the Left has spent three years lying about and who's been called a criminal by the Left every 14 seconds called someone on the Left a criminal, which is a no-no...
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This is amazing...

The complaint is that the guy the Left has spent three years lying about and who's been called a criminal by the Left every 14 seconds called someone on the Left a criminal, which is a no-no...
Itís not a ďno no.Ē Itís just an idiotic lie.
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I've been incredibly frustrated with Obama's unwillingness to go after the clown who succeeded him. He gave the house keys to an arsonist, but has said barely a word as the guy sets fire after fire.

(And if you think that Obama started this with his mild comments on Saturday, you're nuts. Trump has spent three years lying about Obama and was stupidly calling him a criminal just a week ago.)
Well, the only thing being burned down is the world economy. How long before you blame that on Trump? Or have you already started?
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Itís not a ďno no.Ē Itís just an idiotic lie.
So was the Russian collusion nonsense and the Ukrainian impeachment. Democrats can dish it out but they sure can't take it.
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So was the Russian collusion nonsense and the Ukrainian impeachment. Democrats can dish it out but they sure can't take it.
Trump willingly used the criminal support of the Russian government to help him get elected and then tried to cover it up. Those are proven facts. And Trump threatened to withhold approved military aid for Ukraine if they didn't announce an investigation of his chief political rival. Again, proven facts. You seem not to understand the definition of the word lie.
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Trump willingly used the criminal support of the Russian government to help him get elected and then tried to cover it up. Those are proven facts. And Trump threatened to withhold approved military aid for Ukraine if they didn't announce an investigation of his chief political rival. Again, proven facts. You seem not to understand the definition of the word lie.
Those are Resistance unproven accusations only a zealot true believer would try to pass off as facts. Mueller's lynch mob couldn't indict any American for cooperation or conspiracy with the Russians. But you know better.

After a ridiculously partisan sham investigation House Democrats on a straight party line vote decided to criminalize diplomacy. With one never Trumper exception the Senate came no where near to removing the President from office. But you know better.

Learn to distinguish between the Resistance hatred feeding your opinion and facts.
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