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Old 12-04-2019, 01:51 PM
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The "Deep State" is comprised of the professionals working in our government offices fulfilling the roles and tasks that have been assigned to them by Congress under the law. Their jobs are non-partisan and are dedicated exclusively to the mission statement of the organization.
You omitted three very important words...I'll add them...

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The "Deep State" is SUPPOSED TO BE comprised of the professionals working in our government offices fulfilling the roles and tasks that have been assigned to them by Congress under the law. Their jobs are SUPPOSED TO BE non-partisan and are dedicated exclusively to the mission statement of the organization.
Here are three statements...


I can tell you what a priest's job is supposed to be, but we all know not all priests have abided by it...Many have broken the rules...

I can tell you what a police officer's job is supposed to be, but we all know not all police officers have abided by it...Many have broken the rules...

I can tell you what a government employee's job is supposed to be, but we all know not all government employees have abided by it...Many have broken the rules...

It's amazing that the Left wholeheartedly agrees with the first two statements, but THEN puts on the cloak of deniability and mercilessly attacks anyone who dares say the third...
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You are not alone, Salty. Most people fear what they cannot control.
I fear the disgrace of a nation which can easily turn in to its downfall.
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Please don't hold back.

Tell us what you really think.
why do you love him?
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I fear the disgrace of a nation which can easily turn in to its downfall.
Indeed, the reassertion of American interests abroad and the reinvigorated economy at how are truely disgraceful.
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Indeed, the reassertion of American interests abroad and the reinvigorated economy at how are truely disgraceful.
those are policy decisions
we are not arguing if that is true but we can on a policy thread

we are discussing why so many people abhor trump
he is akin to a traitor and does evil around the world as outlined in my opening remark
now he has wiped his arse with the constitution
no patriot would not intensely dislike the man.
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those are policy decisions
we are not arguing if that is true but we can on a policy thread

we are discussing why so many people abhor trump
he is akin to a traitor and does evil around the world as outlined in my opening remark
now he has wiped his arse with the constitution
no patriot would not intensely dislike the man.
If Trump's so-called disgrace to the nation isn't related to policy decisions then pray tell what drives the condemnation? Is it the judgement of bureaucrats like those performing on the Schiff show proclaiming they are the keepers of America's interests rather than the duly elected President? Now you borrow a graphic, vulgar line from a Leftist comedian unsupported by evidence to claim the President has engaged in unconstitutional acts.

Like the Democrats headlong rush to impeachment the conclusion condemning Trump, Orange man bad, has already been carved in stone all that is left is to pile up unsupported allegations in support of it.
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why do you love him?
Fallacy of the complex question.

The first question should be: Do I love him?

And the answer to that is no.

So there is really no need for the "why" question that would naturally follow.

I do, however, like a great many of his policies--even if not his personality. (Admittedly, he is arrogant, a braggart, and a bit of a bully.)

And I certainly preferred him to the alternative in 2016.
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Fallacy of the complex question.

The first question should be: Do I love him?

And the answer to that is no.

So there is really no need for the "why" question that would naturally follow.

I do, however, like a great many of his policies--even if not his personality. (Admittedly, he is arrogant, a braggart, and a bit of a bully.)

And I certainly preferred him to the alternative in 2016.
But to leftist's, your position is not possible. They have a need to place people into neat, specific boxes so that the world makes sense to them.

In their world, there are only 2 types of people on the subject; Ones that hate Trump and everything about him and those that love him. There can be no in between.

Therefore, to her and other leftist's, he question makes perfect sense. You have not come out and condemned everything about Trump, regardless of the lines you would have to cross to do so, therefore you must love him. And then the only question left in their minds is, Why do you love him?

This is classic cult thinking. It is on display daily by our leftist members here and in the DNC (which includes the MSM as they are just the propaganda wing of the DNC.)
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Fallacy of the complex question.

The first question should be: Do I love him?

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If Trump's so-called disgrace to the nation isn't related to policy decisions then pray tell what drives the condemnation? ...
thwarting the constitution, bribery over seas, submitting his presidency thus us all to a foreign enemy, and probably his general nastiness.
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