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I do find it most unfortunate that President Trump has chosen to deride Beto O'Rourke as a "bastard."

Such language is surely beneath the dignity of the office.

Just as importantly, it is really not the very epitome of decency to kick a person when he is already down. And that is what the president has done here--presumably, in the hope that his "base" will like that sort of Tough Guy approach.
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I do find it most unfortunate that President Trump has chosen to deride Beto O'Rourke as a "bastard."

Such language is surely beneath the dignity of the office.
The concept of dignity and Donald Trump have never been formally introduced....

Par for the Donald...
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Who did Trump call a bastard again?...

This is from less than 2 weeks ago...

Beto Compares Trump's America to Nazi Germany Twice in MSNBC Interview

And this is from 3 months ago...

Beto O’Rourke Compares Trump to Nazi Germany, Blasts Press for Not Connecting His Racist Rhetoric with Mass Shootings

And this is from July of this year...

Beto O’Rourke Compares Donald Trump Rally to Nazi Rallies for Hitler

And this is from April of this year...

Democratic presidential candidate Beto O'Rourke compared President Donald Trump's rhetoric on immigration to the nazis.

I'm sorry, but Trump's rhetoric is exactly what Beto DESERVED...

Wanting to see a president "above the fray" and recognizing why they're not is a big difference...

Bush never fought back against the bullsh*t attacks...

McCain never fought back against bullsh*t attacks...

Romney never fought back against bullsh*t attacks...

Now we have someone that does fight back, and we get demands that he must abide by Queensbury rules when his attackers do not...

...and THAT is bullsh*t in and of itself...
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Beto could still be pursuaded by a flood of out of state money to run for the Senate in 2020 challenging the incumbent Republican. Texas is vital to Trump's reelection so it's not without merit for Trump to criticize him.
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Who did Trump call a bastard again?...

This is from less than 2 weeks ago...

Beto Compares Trump's America to Nazi Germany Twice in MSNBC Interview

And this is from 3 months ago...

Beto O’Rourke Compares Trump to Nazi Germany, Blasts Press for Not Connecting His Racist Rhetoric with Mass Shootings

And this is from July of this year...

Beto O’Rourke Compares Donald Trump Rally to Nazi Rallies for Hitler

And this is from April of this year...

Democratic presidential candidate Beto O'Rourke compared President Donald Trump's rhetoric on immigration to the nazis.

I'm sorry, but Trump's rhetoric is exactly what Beto DESERVED...

Wanting to see a president "above the fray" and recognizing why they're not is a big difference...

Bush never fought back against the bullsh*t attacks...

McCain never fought back against bullsh*t attacks...

Romney never fought back against bullsh*t attacks...

Now we have someone that does fight back, and we get demands that he must abide by Queensbury rules when his attackers do not...

...and THAT is bullsh*t in and of itself...
You are certainly correct in pointing out that Beto O'Rourke has spoken badly--very badly--of President Trump, on previous occasions.

And it is surely fair to note that this should not be forgotten.

But I do believe that the president is much more than just the occupant of a political office. Rather, he is (or, at least, should be) the very embodiment of our collective American values.

And I am just not quite comfortable in asserting that this recent outburst is in keeping with that embodiment.
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But I do believe that the president is much more than just the occupant of a political office. Rather, he is (or, at least, should be) the very embodiment of our collective American values.
I agree.

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And I am just not quite comfortable in asserting that this recent outburst is in keeping with that embodiment.
I am from New York, and so is Trump. My neighbor is from New Jersey, another state where people don't mince words, and we've discussed Trump's lack of tact in many situations. What a lot of people don't realize is that New Yorkers are blunt and tell it like it is. I respect and appreciate that, but a lot of people from other parts of the country are offended by the lack of tact many from the NY region display. Trump is not a politician who has been trained to speak smoothly and to avoid answering questions by deflection. He tells it like it is, and yes, it might be crude at times, but it is truthful, and I'd rather hear that than the lies from a smooth-talking politician.
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I am from New York, and so is Trump. My neighbor is from New Jersey, another state where people don't mince words, and we've discussed Trump's lack of tact in many situations. What a lot of people don't realize is that New Yorkers are blunt and tell it like it is. I respect and appreciate that, but a lot of people from other parts of the country are offended by the lack of tact many from the NY region display. Trump is not a politician who has been trained to speak smoothly and to avoid answering questions by deflection. He tells it like it is, and yes, it might be crude at times, but it is truthful, and I'd rather hear that than the lies from a smooth-talking politician.
I'm from Philly, so I guess I'm along those same lines...

I see it this way...

FOOD...

Obama - Whole Foods, Arugala, Waygu beef...

Trump - McDonald's

Now whose in touch with the Average Joe?...
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I do find it most unfortunate that President Trump has chosen to deride Beto O'Rourke as a "bastard."

Such language is surely beneath the dignity of the office.

Just as importantly, it is really not the very epitome of decency to kick a person when he is already down. And that is what the president has done here--presumably, in the hope that his "base" will like that sort of Tough Guy approach.
hadn't heard that one.
I do watch some of fox but haven't listened to his rallies lately. they depress me. truthfully. devolved into cursing and cheering during some.
yes every norm that's broken by celebrities or authorities that is unchallenged changes what our kids think is ok therefore changing the country.
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I agree.



I am from New York, and so is Trump. My neighbor is from New Jersey, another state where people don't mince words, and we've discussed Trump's lack of tact in many situations. What a lot of people don't realize is that New Yorkers are blunt and tell it like it is. I respect and appreciate that, but a lot of people from other parts of the country are offended by the lack of tact many from the NY region display. Trump is not a politician who has been trained to speak smoothly and to avoid answering questions by deflection. He tells it like it is, and yes, it might be crude at times, but it is truthful, and I'd rather hear that than the lies from a smooth-talking politician.
there are many native new yorkers in the public eye. I believe Franklin Roosevelt was one. but currently, they don't say things like that from a professional or authoritative place. if a news guy from nj or ny says damn on tv it's harsh criticism or during a heated disagreement not after the fact reflection.
and trump supposedly is well educated.
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