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The President & the Executive Branch Discuss John Bolton Can Almost Taste War With Iran at the Political Forums; Originally Posted by FrancSevin UH,,,/,,, news flash, the Chesapeake is not international waters. Originally Posted by Hairy Jello Air Force ...

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UH,,,/,,, news flash, the Chesapeake is not international waters.
"...On January 12, 2016, two United States Navy Riverine command boats were seized by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) Navy after they entered Iranian territorial waters near Iran's Farsi Island in the Persian Gulf..."

not all of the Persian gulf is "international waters" folks, and the we all should understand that right?

So the questions stands, what would you call an Iranian navy ship or a Russian Aircraft Carrier in... or nearing... the Chesapeake Bay?
Good for the goose? Or is it somehow "different" if U.S. warships cruise with, aircraft, missiles and nuke within striking distance of half (all) your country?
Any Country with questionable relations with another would consider the action a threat and the ships "targets".

It's always odd to me that people can't seem to wear the shoes of the other nations for even a moment to get another perspective on how some of our military actions are honestly understood.
Iranian warships cruising the Chesapeake bay or Gulf of Mexico or off the coast of New York in "international waters", would likely have many here ready to declare war ... much less calling the ships "targets".

Putting a U.S. Aircraft carrier group 13 miles off your coast is not a sign of friendship. It looks like someone trying to start a fight. Like someone who comes from across town and starts walking back and forth on the sidewalk in front of a house waving a machine, and then acts upset when the homeowner yells out the window that they are going to shoot you if you try anything.
But hey, becasue the guy with the machine gun is AMERICA it's Ok right?
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Sorry, Wonder, but ya lost.

Gulf = International waters
Chesapeake Bay = US territory

In your rush to close your mind and follow the lib herd by taking Iran's side in your hatred for Trump, ya completely ignored facts.

Better luck next time.

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Sorry, Wonder, but ya lost.
Gulf = International waters
Chesapeake Bay = US territory
In your rush to close your mind and follow the lib herd by taking Iran's side in your hatred for Trump, ya completely ignored facts.
Better luck next time.
If you're going to try and stick me with a technical foul from my hyperbolic reply ok then. But you've got to stick with it all the way Hairy, and the fact is part of the Persian Gulf is Iranian Territorial waters.

As far as taking sides go. Look the Persian gulf is on the other side of the world on their coastline. And the Iranians have every right to feel threaten and tell people they'll defend their lands and waters.
I'm not sure why that's a hard concept for some Americans to get.
Imperialist neo-cons of course think that the US can just go anywhere and crap on other people's lawns and those people should STHU or say "thank you" or the US will act offended and want to fight.

sorry i just don't buy it Hairy. I haven't drunk enough koolaid for me to be blind to treating other countries like they don't have the same sovereignty as we have. We've already got sanctions on Iran, and withdrawn the treaty Trump said was so Bad. Now we're floating aircraft carriers in their front yard but we're acting offended when they just SAY they are going to defend themselves IF the ships do something.
Sorry but i see classic Bully and Abuser tactics.
The Iranians are no saints but in this case they haven't SAID or DONE anything in the gulf to merit the kind of BS huffing and shocked and offended reactions some folks are projecting.

It simply looks like Trump (John Bolton) is trying to provoke a fight to me.
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