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Default Re: Trump picks acting Pentagon chief and former Boeing executive Patrick Shanahan to

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Don't be too hard on him. This is the kind of stuff libs get spoon-fed on MSNBC.

Dude has been the acting director for 2 years, yet libs wanna claim he has no experience for the job.
typical barnum and baily con show
the public forgot about him. meanwhile he's been tabulating his next laundered bonus.
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typical barnum and baily con show
the public forgot about him. meanwhile he's been tabulating his next laundered bonus.
And I'm sure you can post some actual facts to support your allegations?

Don't worry, nobody would ever expect you do to that. We know you for what you are. Have a nice day.
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And obviously kickbacks.
Proof?
Links?

Otherwise, your post are worthless babble.
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And obviously kickbacks.
Facts matter. You got any?

I thought not.

Perhaps Trump should have selected a college professor. The kind with tenure and teach one class for $250K a year. They are all saints.

Instead he nominated a bean counter to run the military. Wonder why? I don't. After all the complaints about military waste and corruption, a bean counter may just be what we need there for the time being. Trump promised to cut waste. Perhaps this is how he will get it one.

There are plenty of generals to manage military matters.
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Businessman President nominates someone with a business background in a related field to run a $700 billion plus vital government program. Shocking.

But questioning the qualifications of a President who had never so much as run a hot dog cart on the streets of Chicago to manage a $4 trillion annual budget is racist.
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we're all being honest here right?
I mean by default most of us are suspicious of someone who obviously has a some likelyhood of personal/Biz advantage if put in a certain gov't positions right.
I mean if "former" executives of McDonalds became the head of the Dept of Agriculture shouldn't we think that's ODD and MAYBE a conflict of interest.
I'm not sure where this trusting innocence some of you are professing comes from. None of you are that naive.
the conflict of interest here is blatant.
And Boeing and it's executives track record as a gov't contractors and even a private plane provider is far from spotless


here's Short list of items that might make one suspicious of having a Boeing executive at the head of the Dept of Defense.
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Boeing By Philip Mattera
Boeing is both a powerhouse of the commercial aircraft industry—its jets are among the best known industrial products made in the United States—and a leading military contractor. It also has one of the most checkered ethical records of any large corporation. A slew of contracting scandals in the 2000s forced the company’s chief executive to resign and prompted Congress to strip the company of a $20 billion Pentagon deal (though it later managed to get that award reinstated). Boeing also has a history of contentious relations with its main U.S. unions and was accused of retaliating against them by moving a new assembly line for its Dreamliner aircraft to the union-unfriendly state of South Carolina, which rewarded the company with a subsidy package estimated to be worth more than $900 million. In 2013 the company negotiated a much larger package from Washington State (along with union contract concessions) in exchange for keeping production of its next-generation airliner in the Seattle area.

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In 1989 Boeing pleaded guilty and paid a penalty of more than $5 million in connection with charges that it illegally obtained classified Pentagon planning documents.
In April 1994 Boeing paid $75 million to settle charges that it systematically overcharged and mischarged the federal government on military contracts over the course of more than a decade.
In November 1997 Boeing subsidiary McDonnell Douglas agreed to pay $2 million to settle allegations that it overcharged the Pentagon in a contract to repair aircraft manufacturing equipment.
In August 2000 Boeing agreed to pay up to $54 million to resolve two whistleblower lawsuits charging that the company placed defective gears in CH-47D Chinook helicopters and then sold the aircraft to the U.S. Army.
In November 2000 Boeing and United Space Alliance agreed to pay a total of $825,000 and give up their rights to $1.2 million in unpaid invoices to settle allegations of overbilling NASA for work overseen between 1986 and 1992 by Rockwell Space Operations (later purchased by Boeing).
In July 2003 the U.S. Air Force stripped Boeing of $1 billion in potential revenue as a penalty for obtained documents stolen from its rival Lockheed Martin during a contract competition for military satellites.
In November 2003 Boeing dismissed its chief financial officer when it came to light that he had offered a job to an Air Force procurement official while she was in negotiations with the company on a $20 billion contract to supply aerial refueling tankers.
Also fired was the former procurement official, Darleen Druyun, who had accepted the job offer. The scandal also led to the resignation of Boeing’s chief executive. In 2004 Druyun was sentenced to nine months in federal prison after admitting that she had lied to prosecutors about approving inflated prices on contracts awarded to Boeing to enhance her job prospects with the company. Boeing’s former chief financial officer also pleaded guilty to a conflict-of-interest charge.
In the wake of the Druyun scandal, Congress barred the Pentagon from pursuing the aerial tanker deal with Boeing, and in March 2008 it was awarded to a partnership of Northrop Grumman and Airbus parent EADS. Three months later, however, the competition was reopened and ended up back with Boeing.
In June 2006 Boeing agreed to pay a record $615 million to settle federal civil and criminal charges that it improperly used competitors’ information to procure contracts for launch services worth billions of dollars from the U.S. Air Force and NASA.
In August 2009 Boeing agreed to pay $25 million to settle allegations that it performed defective work on the entire KC-10 Extender fleet, a mainstay of the Air Force’s aerial refueling fleet used in Iraq and Afghanistan.
In October 2010 Boeing agreed to pay $4 million to settle a civil lawsuit alleging that it unlawfully inflated the price it charged the Air Force to produce the Towed Decoy System for the B-1 bomber.
In January 2012 Boeing agreed to pay more than $4.3 million to resolve charges that it improperly billed the Pentagon for the remanufacture of Chinook helicopters at its plant in Ridley Park, Pennsylvania.

https://www.corp-research.org/boeing
And right now Boeing is trying to dodge a bullet for the manufactured problems with their planes crashing in Indonesia and Ethiopia.

Should we ignore this stuff and Assume the best of this guy and that HAD NOTHING to do with this kind of recurrent corrupt activity?
And would never favor his "former" employer with favors, info, access, or contracts?
Sounds naive to me.
the conflict of interest is obvious.
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Acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan’s private remarks during his 18 months at the Pentagon have spurred accusations that he is boosting his former employer Boeing, people who have witnessed the exchanges told POLITICO — fueling questions about whether he harbors an unfair bias against other big military contractors.

Shanahan, who spent 31 years at Boeing before joining the Pentagon in mid-2017, has signed an ethics agreement recusing him from weighing in on matters involving the mammoth defense contractor. But that hasn’t stopped him from praising Boeing and trashing competitors such as Lockheed Martin during internal meetings, two former government officials who have heard him make the accusations told POLITICO.
The remarks raise questions among ethics experts about whether Shanahan, intentionally or not, is putting his finger on the scale when it comes to Pentagon priorities. They also call new attention to a recent decision by the Pentagon to request new Boeing fighters that the Air Force has said it does not want a request that Bloomberg has reported came after "prodding" from Shanahan. ....
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...ntagon-1064203

but but... we shouldn't question this guys integrity because... Trump picked him... right?

Sorry folks but i'm seeing a CLEAR corrupt conflict of interest.
Talk about fox in the hen house and cutting out the lobbyist middleman. sheesh.
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