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DHS secretary Nielsen is out of the job but the Resistance is not out of hatred for her.

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As outgoing Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen looks for her next job following her resignation Sunday, she may find herself battling a liberal blacklisting effort against those who've served in the Trump administration.

Nielsen's name appears on a list that a cabal of immigration and civil rights groups recently sent to the CEOs of American companies, urging them not to hire Trump officials who were involved in last year's separation of migrant children from their families.

Other current and former Trump administration officials targeted include John Kelly, the former White House chief of staff, and Sarah Sanders, the current White House press secretary.
Of course the Obama administration had the same policy of so-called family separation of illegal border crossers and parents in the US are separated from their children when they are arrested. But any excuse to punish Trump officials for the "crime" of serving in the administration is acceptable to the Resistance. The life sentence of persecution acts as a deterrent to others contemplating work in the WH as part of the Trump administration.

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Some of these individuals have left the administration in recent months," the letter to the CEOs states. "Regardless of when they leave, they should not be allowed to seek refuge in your boardrooms or corner offices. Allowing them to step off the revolving door and into your welcoming arms should be a nonstarter."
The Resistance doesn't like your political views so you get a lifetime ban from employment. It's a tactic straight out the House Unamerican Activities Committee Democrats claim to revile. But Orange Man bad licenses any tactic.

It's not surprising to find one of the leading groups in the blacklisting is the SPLC. Never mind they are supposed to defend against persecution by hate groups, they are the hate group.

https://www-foxnews-com.cdn.ampproje...rump-officials
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Of course the Obama administration had the same policy of so-called family separation of illegal border crossers and parents in the US are separated from their children when they are arrested.
This is a false and debunked claim.

Prior administrations did not have a "zero tolerance policy" where families would be detained based solely upon unlawfully crossing the border or while their immigration case was pending in the immigration courts that would result in separating the children from their parents/guardians. There are no actual statistics from the Obama Administration on child separations because it was extremely rare for actual criminals, that would be detained, to seek to enter the United States with children. Under Trump 's policy family units crossing the border just to seek asylum are being treated like actual criminals and are being incarcerated which has forced thousands of separations of children from their parents/guardians.

Prior administrations also complied with the Refugee Act of 1980 where refugee families would be allowed to apply for asylum and enter the United States lawfully upon reaching a US port of entry. Family units weren't being forced to unlawfully cross the border just to seek asylum.

Family separations under Obama were incidental and very rare.

Family separations under Trump have been intentional and massive based upon Trump's zero tolerance policy and refusal to fully comply with the Refugee Act of 1980.
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DHS secretary Nielsen is out of the job but the Resistance is not out of hatred for her.

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As outgoing Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen looks for her next job following her resignation Sunday, she may find herself battling a liberal blacklisting effort against those who've served in the Trump administration.

Nielsen's name appears on a list that a cabal of immigration and civil rights groups recently sent to the CEOs of American companies, urging them not to hire Trump officials who were involved in last year's separation of migrant children from their families.
I would suggest that Nielsen's inhumane actions of putting children in cages and causing them irreparable psychological harm by separating them from their parents/guardians under a "zero tolerance policy" would be a more logical reason than an attempt to claim that hatred was behind her being blacklisted (if an actual blacklist exists).

I certainly wouldn't want anyone involved with Trump's inhuman and unAmerican immigration polices working for me.
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DHS secretary Nielsen is out of the job but the Resistance is not out of hatred for her.



Of course the Obama administration had the same policy of so-called family separation of illegal border crossers and parents in the US are separated from their children when they are arrested. But any excuse to punish Trump officials for the "crime" of serving in the administration is acceptable to the Resistance. The life sentence of persecution acts as a deterrent to others contemplating work in the WH as part of the Trump administration.



The Resistance doesn't like your political views so you get a lifetime ban from employment. It's a tactic straight out the House Unamerican Activities Committee Democrats claim to revile. But Orange Man bad licenses any tactic.

It's not surprising to find one of the leading groups in the blacklisting is the SPLC. Never mind they are supposed to defend against persecution by hate groups, they are the hate group.

https://www-foxnews-com.cdn.ampproje...rump-officials
I hope the right returns the favor for everything the loony left has done.If not this nonsense of blacklisting by loony leftist groups will continue. You got to fight fire with fire. If the left does boycotts against right leaning tv hosts advertisers for example then the right does the same thing to advertisers of left wing shows. And it should be the same thing with these companies that left wing wackos are trying to pressure into not hiring former Trump aides.
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This is a false and debunked claim.

Prior administrations did not have a "zero tolerance policy" where families would be detained based solely upon unlawfully crossing the border or while their immigration case was pending in the immigration courts that would result in separating the children from their parents/guardians. There are no actual statistics from the Obama Administration on child separations because it was extremely rare for actual criminals, that would be detained, to seek to enter the United States with children. Under Trump 's policy family units crossing the border just to seek asylum are being treated like actual criminals and are being incarcerated which has forced thousands of separations of children from their parents/guardians.

Prior administrations also complied with the Refugee Act of 1980 where refugee families would be allowed to apply for asylum and enter the United States lawfully upon reaching a US port of entry. Family units weren't being forced to unlawfully cross the border just to seek asylum.

Family separations under Obama were incidental and very rare.

Family separations under Trump have been intentional and massive based upon Trump's zero tolerance policy and refusal to fully comply with the Refugee Act of 1980.
Obama separated family units as well, we don't know how many but trust us, just a few. Meanwhile Trump is to be condemned for doing the same thing.

The problem is not the refugee act it's an imperial judge dictating what she wants the law to be.

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Amending the so-called Flores settlement was a central part of President Donald Trump’s executive order ending the practice of family separations. Justice Department officials had for weeks said the separations were unavoidable because the 1997 settlement bars authorities from detaining children for more than 20 days when their parents are arrested for trying to enter the U.S. illegally. Obama administration officials, facing a similar predicament, had also unsuccessfully tried to persuade the same judge to change the settlement.

Judge Gee said the Justice Department offered no basis to change the settlement and called the Trump administration’s efforts to do so “a cynical attempt…to shift responsibility to the Judiciary for over 20 years of Congressional inaction and ill considered Executive action that have led to the current stalemate.”

The Justice Department said it was reviewing the ruling. “The court does appear to acknowledge that parents who cross the border will not be released” and must choose between remaining together in custody during their asylum proceedings or requesting to be separated so their children may be placed with sponsors, a spokesman said.
The Obama administration pled for the same change to the settlement before the same judge but the Trump administration officials are to be persecuted for this "inhumane" policy.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj...ren-1531172084

The Resistance media conjures up a sensational tale of a zero tolerance policy condemning the Trump administration for enforcing our immigration laws and it's off to the races persecuting administration officials after they leave office. It's nothing but mob rule.
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DHS secretary Nielsen is out of the job but the Resistance is not out of hatred for her.



Of course the Obama administration had the same policy of so-called family separation of illegal border crossers and parents in the US are separated from their children when they are arrested. But any excuse to punish Trump officials for the "crime" of serving in the administration is acceptable to the Resistance. The life sentence of persecution acts as a deterrent to others contemplating work in the WH as part of the Trump administration.



The Resistance doesn't like your political views so you get a lifetime ban from employment. It's a tactic straight out the House Unamerican Activities Committee Democrats claim to revile. But Orange Man bad licenses any tactic.

It's not surprising to find one of the leading groups in the blacklisting is the SPLC. Never mind they are supposed to defend against persecution by hate groups, they are the hate group.

https://www-foxnews-com.cdn.ampproje...rump-officials
why won't republicans hire her?
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why won't republicans hire her?
I don't know if Republicans will or will not hire her. The issue is radical Leftist thuggery in the form of threatening companies that may want to employ them.
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Obama separated family units as well, we don't know how many but trust us, just a few. Meanwhile Trump is to be condemned for doing the same thing.

The problem is not the refugee act it's an imperial judge dictating what she wants the law to be.

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Amending the so-called Flores settlement was a central part of President Donald Trump’s executive order ending the practice of family separations. Justice Department officials had for weeks said the separations were unavoidable because the 1997 settlement bars authorities from detaining children for more than 20 days when their parents are arrested for trying to enter the U.S. illegally. Obama administration officials, facing a similar predicament, had also unsuccessfully tried to persuade the same judge to change the settlement.

Judge Gee said the Justice Department offered no basis to change the settlement and called the Trump administration’s efforts to do so “a cynical attempt…to shift responsibility to the Judiciary for over 20 years of Congressional inaction and ill considered Executive action that have led to the current stalemate.”

The Justice Department said it was reviewing the ruling. “The court does appear to acknowledge that parents who cross the border will not be released” and must choose between remaining together in custody during their asylum proceedings or requesting to be separated so their children may be placed with sponsors, a spokesman said.
The Obama administration pled for the same change to the settlement before the same judge but the Trump administration officials are to be persecuted for this "inhumane" policy.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj...ren-1531172084

The Resistance media conjures up a sensational tale of a zero tolerance policy condemning the Trump administration for enforcing our immigration laws and it's off to the races persecuting administration officials after they leave office. It's nothing but mob rule.
Once again the separations under the Obama Administration were incidental and the administration tried to avoid them whenever possible. Unlawful entry alone was not grounds for incarceration of the parent/guardian applying for asylum that would result in the separation of the child from the parent/guardian. Asylum seekers were always provided with temporary authorization to be in the United States pending the final determination on their asylum status by an immigration court.

The Trump Administration intentionally and without cause kept asylum applicants incarcerated resulting in the mandatory separation of the child from the parent.

Donald Trump has complained about the "catch and release" policies of releasing asylum seekers pending settlement of their immigration status. He cites the high failure rates to appear as a prohibiting factor that requires the detention of asylum seekers.

The problem of failure to appear either at immigration hearings or in reporting to ICE was resolved by a pilot program under the Obama Administration that ended the problems with "catch and release" which, in turn, removed any justification for the federal government to detain those that apply for asylum in the United States regardless of whether they entered the country lawfully or not. There was no longer any justification to keep the asylum seekers incarcerated for more than 20 days when the only "crime" they committed was unlawful entry to apply for asylum.

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In the wake of the 2014 migrant crisis that saw the Obama administration suffer its own backlash for the way it detained parents and children, Immigration and Customs Enforcement came up with a new way to handle families seeking asylum in the United States.

The Family Case Management Program, launched as a pilot in early 2016, aimed to keep asylum seeking kin together, out of detention, and complying with immigration laws. It was praised by immigration advocates for both its high rate of compliance and its ability to help migrants thrive in a new country — right up until the Trump administration shuttered it almost exactly a year ago.

Under the program, families who passed a credible fear interview and were determined to be good candidates for a less-secure form of release — typically vulnerable populations like pregnant women, mothers who are nursing or moms with young children — were given a caseworker who helped educate them on their rights and responsibilities. The caseworker also helped families settle in, assisting with things like accessing medical care and attorneys, while also making sure their charges made it to court.

“It was really, really cost efficient compared to family detention or family separation,” Katharina Obser, a senior policy adviser for the Women's Refugee Commission's Migrant Rights and Justice program, said.
According to The Associated Press, cost the government $36 per day per family.

According to the Inspector General report, overall compliance in the five cities where the pilot was launched was 99 percent for ICE check-ins and appointments, and 100 percent for attendance in court hearings. Just 2 percent of participants absconded during the process.

ICE said it canceled the program because it was too expensive compared to other monitoring methods, and because it did not remove enough asylum seekers from the U.S.
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/im...gether-n885896

A cost of $36/day is far less than the cost of detention and family separation and the claim made by the Trump administration that the program cost to much was pure BS. The only other "monitoring method" used by the Trump administration has been incarceration and family separation.

The only purpose for cancelling this Obama era program, as opposed to expanding it, was that it didn't remove enough asylum seekers from the United States. The Trump Administration opposes following the laws when it comes to refugees coming from Hispanic countries south of our border that seek asylum under our laws. There's more evidence of this and Trump is willing to violate US laws, the Constitution, and court orders to accomplish his goal of keeping "Mexicans" (Hispanics) out of the United States.
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The problem is not the refugee act it's an imperial judge dictating what she wants the law to be.

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The Justice Department said it was reviewing the ruling [Flores Settlement]. “The court does appear to acknowledge that parents who cross the border will not be released” and must choose between remaining together in custody during their asylum proceedings or requesting to be separated so their children may be placed with sponsors, a spokesman said.
The Obama administration pled for the same change to the settlement before the same judge but the Trump administration officials are to be persecuted for this "inhumane" policy.

The Resistance media conjures up a sensational tale of a zero tolerance policy condemning the Trump administration for enforcing our immigration laws and it's off to the races persecuting administration officials after they leave office. It's nothing but mob rule.
The Refugee Act of 1980 is the problem for Donald Trump because he refuses to comply with that law. The Refugee Act of 1980 requires the federal government (CBP) to allow refugees to apply for asylum when they arrive at any US port of entry. The Trump administration has restricted the number of those that can apply to less than 20 at some ports of entry and at the busiest port of entry along our border with Mexico it's been limited to less than 100.

With thousands arriving they're being denied their right to apply under the law and that's created a huge humanitarian crisis in Mexico. It's also forced many of these refugees to use the alternative means to apply for asylum which is to unlawfully cross the border and present themselves to border patrol agents that have to allow them to apply for asylum.

The Trump Administration, by refusing to comply with the Refugee Act of 1980, has created the "emergency" along our border with Mexico that's resulted in the surge of refugees unlawfully crossing the border.

The Flores settlement did NOT establish that the BCP and ICE needed to detain any person seeking asylum for over 20 days where it would force the separation of the child from the adult parent/guardian just because of unlawful entry into the United States. That's a BS argument from the Trump DOJ. There's only two reasons why a person that unlawfully crossed the border and applied for asylum should be incarcerated prior to their final judgment by an immigration court.

1. Does the person represent a threat to the United States or the people of the United States?
2. Does the person represent a threat of flight to avoid prosecution?

Both of these criteria can be reviewed and settled within 20-days so there's no reason to detain the adult and the child once the adult has filed for asylum.

Generally speaking very few of the refugees that unlawfully cross our border meet either of these two criteria and they should not be in custody at all.

Donald Trump ignores the law whenever it gets in his way. He just fired Kirstjen Nielsen, the Sect of DHS and forced Claire Grady to resign because neither one of them would violate the law at the direction of Donald Trump. The statute that governs DHS mandates that the department's under secretary of management – Grady – take over as acting secretary in the event of a departure by the secretary.

Trump wanted someone to lead DHS that was willing to violate the law if he directed them to.

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During President Donald Trump’s visit to the border at Calexico, California, a week ago, where he told border agents to block asylum seekers from entering the US contrary to US law, the President also told the commissioner of Customs and Border Protection, Kevin McAleenan, that if he were sent to jail as a result of blocking those migrants from entering the US, the President would grant him a pardon, senior administration officials tell CNN…
https://americantruthtoday.com/repor...from-entering/

Trump's problem is the law and he addresses that by simply violating it and them blames the courts if they issue a decision enforcing the law.
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