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Old 01-04-2019, 09:11 PM
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Default Government shutdown 2019: Trump's cabinet secretaries, mike pence to receive $10,000

800,000 federal workers are going into week three without pay, half of them are still working, but the Trump cronies get a $10,000 pay bump?

The really, really bad part is Trump already froze federal salaries for 2019, so no one but them gets a raise this year.

One might be inclined to call these people a name like "Motherf-ckers", but unfortunately has been deemed offensive by the "MAGA! Screw your PC feelings!" crowd.

And all because he is stamping his feet over the wall that Mexico was supposed to pay for.

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GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN 2019: TRUMP'S CABINET SECRETARIES, MIKE PENCE TO RECEIVE $10,000 PAY RAISE AS 400,000 FEDERAL EMPLOYEES WORK FOR FREE


The Trump administration is giving its senior employees $10,000 pay raises while 800,000 federal employees are going into their third week on furlough and another 400,000 are working without pay because of President Donald Trump’s partial government shutdown over $5 billion in border wall funding. The president also passed an executive order this week denying federal civilian employees a cost-of-living raise.

Cabinet secretaries, deputy secretaries, some senior officials and Vice President Mike Pence will see pay increases beginning Saturday, January 5, according to the Office of Personnel Management and as first reported by The Washington Post.

Unless extended by new legislation, the pay freeze will end on the last day of the last pay period that begins in calendar year 2018," Margaret Weichert, the agency's acting director, wrote last week in a public memo.

Surprisingly enough, the pay raises will happen because of, not in spite of, the shutdown.

The Washington Post reported that a lack of bills funding federal agencies on December 21, 2018, also led to lapse in a pay-cap freeze. The freeze is set to end Saturday, at which time the White House officials will get their raises. Cabinet secretaries will see their salaries jump from $199,700 to $210,700, and Pence will see his pay increase from $230,700 to $243,500.

President Trump, meanwhile, signed an executive order last week canceling a 2.1 percent pay increase for federal workers as well as adjusted cost-of-living pay depending on the localities in which they live and work. Trump called the pay increase “inappropriate” in a letter to Congress.

“We must maintain efforts to put our Nation on a fiscally sustainable course, and Federal agency budgets cannot sustain such increases,” he wrote. Budget deficits have ballooned under Trump, who has been willing to use government spending for his pet issues and for his own security as he travels to his personal homes.

The president said that federal workers who were going without pay during the shutdown understood and supported his decision to potentially keep the shutdown going for months. "Many of those workers have said to me, communicated, stay out until you get the funding for the wall. These federal workers want the wall,” Trump told reporters on Christmas Day. “I think they understand what’s happening; they want border security.”

But a survey by Government Business Council and GovExec found that federal employees overwhelmingly oppose the shutdown. Only 30 percent support building a wall, and of that number, 35 percent oppose shutting down the government over it.

The American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE), a federal employees union, sued the Trump administration this week for expecting employees to work without pay.

In a statement, AFGE national president J. David Cox called the president’s actions “nothing short of inhumane.” The employees “deserve the decency of knowing when their next paycheck is coming and that they will be paid for their work,” he said. “Our intent is to force the government and the administration to make all federal employees whole.”
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Default Re: Government shutdown 2019: Trump's cabinet secretaries, mike pence to receive $10,

I heard a new congresswoman say on TV today she has refused her pay until the government was reopened. Googled her story but found there are more than her who are doing that:

Here are lawmakers diverting pay in solidarity with shutdown employees
now donald trump needs to put his own salary where his mouth is.
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The executive branch has zero say over their salaries...ZERO....

If you want to be angry, be angry with those that GAVE it...NOT the ones who receive it through no actions and no say of their own...
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The executive branch has zero say over their salaries...ZERO....

If you want to be angry, be angry with those that GAVE it...NOT the ones who receive it through no actions and no say of their own...
If Trump can freeze a COLA raise for federal workers via executive order, would he also not be able the same with his cabinet and VP?
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Members of Congress shouldn't receive their salaries when there is a government shutdown since the shutdown shows they aren't doing their jobs.
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If Trump can freeze a COLA raise for federal workers via executive order, would he also not be able the same with his cabinet and VP?
No...

Federal workers are just that...Federal workers...That's different from the Judicial, Executive, and Legislative branch officials (elected and/or appointed), which has checks and balances...

The president could freeze the pay of every Supreme Court CLERK, but not anyone on the actual Supreme Court...

Salaries of the branch officials are dictated by the Legislature...

EDIT - As a side note, the Legislative branch can not give any CURRENT branch official an increase (or decrease) in salary...Any increase to the SEAT must be given during the following Legislative session...

Example - Congress passes a law saying the new president salary is $500,000...That can NOT start until 2020, so Trump can't get it...

But if he gets reelected, THEN the new Legislative session starts, so he would get the new salary...
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The executive branch has zero say over their salaries...ZERO....

If you want to be angry, be angry with those that GAVE it...NOT the ones who receive it through no actions and no say of their own...
I quite admire those who gave up their salaries in solidarity with government workers.
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I quite admire those who gave up their salaries in solidarity with government workers.
Like who?...
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I quite admire those who gave up their salaries in solidarity with government workers.
As opposed to Trump who has given up his presidential salary all along. I haven't read about anyone else forfeiting their salaries.
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As opposed to Trump who has given up his presidential salary all along. I haven't read about anyone else forfeiting their salaries.
Giving up his salary is a meaningless con. He’s make more profit monthly through lobbyists and government business at his DC hotel than he is giving up in annual salary.
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