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These two articles seem to be at odds with one another:
also the headline for email reads : U.S. reaches deal with Mexico to make asylum seekers wait outside U.S.
The Trump administration has won the support of leftist president-elect Andrés Manuel López Obrador for a plan that could end a system — decried by President Trump as “catch and release” — that has generally allowed those seeking refuge to wait on safer U.S. soil while their cases are processed.

while the article @ WPo was revised to read: Deal with Mexico paves way for asylum overhaul at U.S. border
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...evening&wpmm=1

Then there's this:

Incoming Mexico gov't: No deal to host US asylum-seekers

https://www.apnews.com/69f880e7d26240e0b7692f643f31c81d

MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico’s incoming government denied a report Saturday that it plans to allow asylum-seekers to wait in the country while their claims move through U.S. immigration courts, one of several options the Trump administration has been pursuing in negotiations for months.

The deal was seen as a way to dissuade thousands of Central American migrants from seeking asylum in the U.S., a process that can take years. In effect, Mexican border towns are already acting as waiting rooms for migrants hoping to start new lives in the U.S. due to bottlenecks at the border.

“There is no agreement of any sort between the incoming Mexican government and the U.S. government,” future Interior Minister Olga Sanchez said in a statement.

Hours earlier, The Washington Post quoted her as saying that the incoming administration of Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador had agreed to allow migrants to stay in Mexico as a “short-term solution” while the U.S. considered their applications for asylum. Lopez Obrador will take office on Dec. 1.

The statement shared with The Associated Press said the future government’s principal concern related to the migrants is their well-being while in Mexico.

The Washington Post reported Saturday that the administration of U.S. President Donald Trump has won support from the Mexican president-elect’s team for a plan dubbed “Remain in Mexico.”

The newspaper also quoted Sanchez as saying: “For now, we have agreed to this policy of Remain in Mexico.”

Sanchez did not explain in the statement why The Washington Post had quoted her as saying there had been agreement.

White House spokesman Hogan Gidley said, “President Trump has developed a strong relationship with the incoming (Lopez) Obrador Administration, and we look forward to working with them on a wide range of issues.”

Stephanie Leutert, director of the Mexico Security Initiative at the University of Texas at Austin, described the Remain in Mexico plan as a strategy to take away the ability of migrants to live and work in the U.S. while cases are processed. “The hope is that asylum seekers will not want to live in (Mexico) for months/years and won’t come,” Leutert said via Twitter.

U.S. officials have said for months that they were working with Mexico to find solutions for what they have called a border crisis. One variation, called “Safe Third,” would have denied asylum claims on the grounds that asylum seekers had found haven in Mexico. President Enrique Pena Nieto offered thousands of Central Americans asylum on Oct. 26 if they agreed to remain in southern Mexico. Close to 3,000 migrants took Mexico up on the offer.

Sanchez said Saturday that the next government does not plan for Mexico to become a “Safe Third” country.


Not only is he lying but now looks like he's playing the press...well he's been doing that but with his releasing conflicting statements of actual policy I think this is a first
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These two articles seem to be at odds with one another:
also the headline for email reads : U.S. reaches deal with Mexico to make asylum seekers wait outside U.S.
The Trump administration has won the support of leftist president-elect Andrés Manuel López Obrador for a plan that could end a system — decried by President Trump as “catch and release” — that has generally allowed those seeking refuge to wait on safer U.S. soil while their cases are processed.

while the article @ WPo was revised to read: Deal with Mexico paves way for asylum overhaul at U.S. border
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...evening&wpmm=1

Then there's this:

Incoming Mexico gov't: No deal to host US asylum-seekers

https://www.apnews.com/69f880e7d26240e0b7692f643f31c81d

MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico’s incoming government denied a report Saturday that it plans to allow asylum-seekers to wait in the country while their claims move through U.S. immigration courts, one of several options the Trump administration has been pursuing in negotiations for months.

The deal was seen as a way to dissuade thousands of Central American migrants from seeking asylum in the U.S., a process that can take years. In effect, Mexican border towns are already acting as waiting rooms for migrants hoping to start new lives in the U.S. due to bottlenecks at the border.

“There is no agreement of any sort between the incoming Mexican government and the U.S. government,” future Interior Minister Olga Sanchez said in a statement.

Hours earlier, The Washington Post quoted her as saying that the incoming administration of Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador had agreed to allow migrants to stay in Mexico as a “short-term solution” while the U.S. considered their applications for asylum. Lopez Obrador will take office on Dec. 1.

The statement shared with The Associated Press said the future government’s principal concern related to the migrants is their well-being while in Mexico.

The Washington Post reported Saturday that the administration of U.S. President Donald Trump has won support from the Mexican president-elect’s team for a plan dubbed “Remain in Mexico.”

The newspaper also quoted Sanchez as saying: “For now, we have agreed to this policy of Remain in Mexico.”

Sanchez did not explain in the statement why The Washington Post had quoted her as saying there had been agreement.

White House spokesman Hogan Gidley said, “President Trump has developed a strong relationship with the incoming (Lopez) Obrador Administration, and we look forward to working with them on a wide range of issues.”

Stephanie Leutert, director of the Mexico Security Initiative at the University of Texas at Austin, described the Remain in Mexico plan as a strategy to take away the ability of migrants to live and work in the U.S. while cases are processed. “The hope is that asylum seekers will not want to live in (Mexico) for months/years and won’t come,” Leutert said via Twitter.

U.S. officials have said for months that they were working with Mexico to find solutions for what they have called a border crisis. One variation, called “Safe Third,” would have denied asylum claims on the grounds that asylum seekers had found haven in Mexico. President Enrique Pena Nieto offered thousands of Central Americans asylum on Oct. 26 if they agreed to remain in southern Mexico. Close to 3,000 migrants took Mexico up on the offer.

Sanchez said Saturday that the next government does not plan for Mexico to become a “Safe Third” country.


Not only is he lying but now looks like he's playing the press...well he's been doing that but with his releasing conflicting statements of actual policy I think this is a first
The WaPo and AP stories conflict proving Trump is a liar. Brilliant.
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The WaPo and AP stories conflict proving Trump is a liar. Brilliant.
where do you think they get their information on wh actions?
Tha Whitehouse releases it to them.
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where do you think they get their information on wh actions?
Tha Whitehouse releases it to them.
The Resistance media gets their stories on the Trump WH from so-called anonymous sources and the vicious Trump hating editorial imaginations of their hack reporters.

The WaPo story is an example of how poisonous the Resistance media has become. After initially reporting an agreement had been reached to keep asylum seekers in Mexico based on statements made by the incoming administration they later added this to the story.

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On Saturday, following publication of The Washington Post story and criticism of the incoming government for acceding to pressure from Trump, Sánchez Cordero and other members of the incoming government denied that an agreement had been reached and said talks with the United States were ongoing.
Our "impartial" media scuttles the agreement out of hatred for Trump. It doesn't matter that having asylum seekers from the caravan remain in Mexico while their cases are heard is good for the US, Trump must be torn down no matter the cost.

There is no basis for your claim the media got the initial story of an agreement from the WH, it came from statements attributed to the incoming Mexican administration. As much as you'd like it to be true the accusation of Trump lying is false.
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This is a guy who thinks you need an ID to buy cereal. Sometimes it's a tossup over whether whatever he says is a deliberate lie or extreme ignorance about the world around him.

Doesn't matter as long as the faithful swallow every word whole.
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This is a guy who thinks you need an ID to buy cereal. Sometimes it's a tossup over whether whatever he says is a deliberate lie or extreme ignorance about the world around him.

Doesn't matter as long as the faithful swallow every word whole.
I believe he said 'groceries', not cereal. Considering alcoholic beverages are readily available in most grocery stores...…
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This is a guy who thinks you need an ID to buy cereal. Sometimes it's a tossup over whether whatever he says is a deliberate lie or extreme ignorance about the world around him.

Doesn't matter as long as the faithful swallow every word whole.
The relevance to the fake news story claiming Trump lied about an agreement with Mexico is.... Nothing.

BTW if you buy your groceries with a check or a credit card you may very well have to show ID. People who are accustomed to using an EBT card probably don't know this.
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The Resistance media gets their stories on the Trump WH from so-called anonymous sources and the vicious Trump hating editorial imaginations of their hack reporters.

The WaPo story is an example of how poisonous the Resistance media has become. After initially reporting an agreement had been reached to keep asylum seekers in Mexico based on statements made by the incoming administration they later added this to the story.



Our "impartial" media scuttles the agreement out of hatred for Trump. It doesn't matter that having asylum seekers from the caravan remain in Mexico while their cases are heard is good for the US, Trump must be torn down no matter the cost.

There is no basis for your claim the media got the initial story of an agreement from the WH, it came from statements attributed to the incoming Mexican administration. As much as you'd like it to be true the accusation of Trump lying is false.
no Virginia they get them from his staff
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Trump incorrectly claims you need to show ID to buy cereal in latest push for tight voter ID laws
Michelle Mark Nov. 14, 2018, 3:46 PM
U.S. President Donald Trump speaks to the media before departing on Marine One on the South Lawn of the White House on November 9, 2018 in Washington, DC.
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President Donald Trump appeared to incorrectly suggest that buying cereal requires shoppers to present identification — and therefore should do so when voting.
Buying cereal does not require ID.
Trump made the comments as part of his latest vendetta against voter fraud and "illegal voting," though he provided no evidence that either occurred during the 2018 midterm elections.
President Donald Trump on Wednesday appeared to wrongly suggest that buying cereal requires shoppers to present identification cards, in his latest push for more stringent voter ID laws.

Trump suggested to The Daily Caller in an interview that if something as simple as a cereal purchase requires ID (it doesn't), so should voting.

"If you buy a box of cereal — you have a voter ID," Trump said. "They try to shame everybody by calling them racist, or calling them something, anything they can think of, when you say you want voter ID. But voter ID is a very important thing."
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The cereal reference was not the first botched grocery analogy Trump has used to push for voter ID laws. He incorrectly said at a Tampa, Florida, rally in August that grocery shopping requires picture ID.

In fact, grocery purchases — and most retail transactions — don't require any identification, unless the products are tobacco, alcohol, fireworks, or firearms and the customer appears younger than certain age thresholds.

It's possible Trump was referring to the mostly outdated practice of cashiers requesting ID for customers who pay with checks or credit cards, but such requests have become relatively rare in recent years and are done at retailers' discretion, not by law.
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The relevance to the fake news story claiming Trump lied about an agreement with Mexico is.... Nothing.

BTW if you buy your groceries with a check or a credit card you may very well have to show ID. People who are accustomed to using an EBT card probably don't know this.
also, he said "voter id" (to buy cereal) lol
but that aside he is lying
yes he lied about a deal with Mexico
neither incoming nor the outgoing Mexican president has a deal with us on that
he lied when he said we would "clean the coal"
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