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Once again we have information reported by the press and we know that the Mueller investigation has certainly addressed what's been reported as well as much more that we don't know about because the Mueller investigation has followed DOJ and FBI policy of not releasing any investigation results except as necessary for criminal prosecutions already being conducted.

Based upon what's been publicly reported and a layman's understanding of the law it's my opinion that more than enough evidence exists for the impeachment, removal from office, indictment, and successful prosecution of President Trump for numerous violations of the law. Historically we also know that just violating the law by a president doesn't necessarily result in impeachment, removal from office, or criminal prosecution.

So yes, it's my opinion that there's ample evidence for the criminal prosecution of the President and that can result in the political impeachment of President Trump. That doesn't imply removal from office because Republicans will still have enough seats in the Senate to block Trump's removal from office regardless of what the Article of Impeachment might establish.

What Mueller's investigation has found will certainly carry a lot of political importance when made public as it relates to impeachment and removal from office.

Yes, the judge limited the release of information specifically to the Grand Jury authority (Roadmap) to directly release the results of it's investigation, that includes the information from the Mueller investigation, to the Congress and that cannot be blocked by the DOJ, the executive branch, or Congress. If it's released to all members of Congress then the public will become informed of the contents of the report either by direct release or by Congressional leaks.

What is important is that the release of the investigation results will not be stopped by anyone for any political reason.
What we know from the Mueller witchhunt is there is no evidence of Russian collusion or of obstruction. It's wishful thinking that Mueller has a collection of evidence against the President he has kept secret. Mueller has been so desperate to make the sham investigation appear relevant he has prosecuted Trump allies for unrelated offenses and process crimes reducing the Russian collusion probe to nothing more than a tawdry partisan circus.
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[QUOTE=ShivaTD;951010]No one claims that Trump will be impeached based upon the Mueller investigation.




Yeah, not anymore. But they did for about a year and a half.

I have not heard anything about Russians from the MSM now that it is
looking like Hillary and the DNC are more likely the ones that colluded with Russians.
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Gah, I got sick of seeing that watergate crap on tv. thank God for Roku!
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Gah, I got sick of seeing that watergate crap on tv. thank God for Roku!
You had Roku in the early 1970's? Because I haven't seen any Watergate hearings on television since then.
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What we know from the Mueller witchhunt is there is no evidence of Russian collusion or of obstruction.
What we know from the Mueller investigation is that we don't know anything about all of the evidence that the Mueller investigation has uncovered.

There are no leaks coming from the Mueller investigation so any claim that "there's no evidence of a conspiracy (not collusion) between members of the Trump Campaign and the Russians" is nothing more than a statement that we don't have any idea about the evidence Mueller has gathered.

Of note if it's a "witch hunt" then Trump had a lot of witches working on his campaign. There have already been numerous convictions of "witches" that worked for Trump and more indictments and convictions of "witches" are anticipated by most legal scholars.
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Yeah, not anymore. But they did for about a year and a half.

I have not heard anything about Russians from the MSM now that it is
looking like Hillary and the DNC are more likely the ones that colluded with Russians.
Not claiming that Trump will be impeached because of evidence presented by the Mueller investigation is not a claim that Trump won't be impeached by the evidence that Mueller has.

What's unlikely is that Trump will be removed from office. Republicans in the Senate clearly don't care what laws Trump has violated or what the Articles of Impeachment might address. They won't vote to remove Trump from office for any reason including treason.
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Not claiming that Trump will be impeached because of evidence presented by the Mueller investigation is not a claim that Trump won't be impeached by the evidence that Mueller has.

What's unlikely is that Trump will be removed from office. Republicans in the Senate clearly don't care what laws Trump has violated or what the Articles of Impeachment might address. They won't vote to remove Trump from office for any reason including treason.
Well, we will see, after the midterms.
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Not claiming that Trump will be impeached because of evidence presented by the Mueller investigation is not a claim that Trump won't be impeached by the evidence that Mueller has.

What's unlikely is that Trump will be removed from office. Republicans in the Senate clearly don't care what laws Trump has violated or what the Articles of Impeachment might address. They won't vote to remove Trump from office for any reason including treason.
Just like Democrats in Congress ignored the laws that Obama violated.

I'm still waiting to hear specifics on these alleged "crimes" that Trump has committed.
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You had Roku in the early 1970's? Because I haven't seen any Watergate hearings on television since then.
for the russia gate stuff that might come up after mid terms
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