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Old 07-31-2018, 07:47 PM
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Trump administration must stop giving psychotropic drugs
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A federal judge on Monday found that U.S. government officials have been giving psychotropic medication to migrant children at a Texas facility without first seeking the consent of their parents or guardians, in violation of state child welfare laws.

U.S. District Judge Dolly Gee in Los Angeles ordered the Trump administration to obtain consent or a court order before administering any psychotropic medications to migrant children, except in cases of dire emergencies. She also ordered that the government move all children out of a Texas facility, Shiloh Residential Treatment Center in Manvel, except for children deemed by a licensed professional to pose a “risk of harm” to themselves or others.

Staff members at Shiloh admitted to signing off on medications in lieu of a parent, relative or legal guardian, according to Gee’s ruling. Government officials defended this practice, saying they provided these drugs only on “an emergency basis” when a child’s “extreme psychiatric symptoms” became dangerous.

The judge didn’t buy this explanation, pointing to testimony from children who said they were given pills “every morning and every night.” Officials “could not have possibly” administered medications to children on an emergency basis every day, Gee wrote.

Children testified in court filings that staff with the U.S. Office of Refugee Resettlement would sometimes not tell them what drugs they were being given or why. They recalled feeling side effects such as nausea, dizziness, depression and weight gain. Some reported being forcibly injected with drugs, and others said they felt that refusing medications would cause them to be detained longer.

“I witnessed staff members forcefully give medication four times,” one child held at Shiloh, identified as Isabella M., said. “. . . Two staff members pinned down the girl . . . and a doctor gave her one or two injections.”

Isabella was prescribed multiple psychotropic medications at Shiloh, including topiramate, without her mother’s consent, according to an April court filing. “Nobody asked me for permission to give medications to my daughter, even though the staff at Shiloh has always had my telephone number and address,” the mother testified.

The mother said Isabella’s anxiety medications were causing her to tremble and feel nervous. Isabella “tells me that she has fallen several times,” her mother testified, “because the medications were too powerful and she couldn’t walk.”

The Shiloh Residential Treatment Center, the judge ruled, violated a long-standing settlement that set strict standards for detaining immigrant children, including those who crossed the border unaccompanied and those who were separated from their parents. The 1997 Flores agreement requires the government to place children in the “least restrictive” setting appropriate to their age and any special needs.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.6c2b2ed99947

I have no words for how absolutely repugnant this is...
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you're right, foundit; even curse words aren't sufficient
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Old 07-31-2018, 09:27 PM
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This is also going to open up a lot of lawsuits
what a chaotic administration
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Old 07-31-2018, 11:12 PM
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This is also going to open up a lot of lawsuits
what a chaotic administration
One thing I wanted to see but was NOT in the article...

"How long has this procedure been around?"...

This article gives the APPEARANCE that this procedure was either created during the current administration and/or was created BY the current administration...

...but the article gives no indication whether or not that's true...

I have a strong feeling the Trump Administration either didn't even know this was going on at these immigration centers or did know of it but it was a practice used before the Trump Administration was even in existence so they just carried on as the previous administration did...

Just like the Left attacking Trump for separating children and their illegal parents and putting them in cages (which was being done during the Obama Administration), I have a feeling this may also be the case...
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.6c2b2ed99947

I have no words for how absolutely repugnant this is...
While I agree that the practice needs to stop while the practice is under further review, when American citizen's who are in jail, I don't believe their permission is required to provide medication to their minor children.

Also, the use of 'Trump Administration' as though Trump himself administered the meds, is so de trop at this point, but hey, any opportunity to throw mud for some.
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One thing I wanted to see but was NOT in the article...

"How long has this procedure been around?"...

This article gives the APPEARANCE that this procedure was either created during the current administration and/or was created BY the current administration...

...but the article gives no indication whether or not that's true...

I have a strong feeling the Trump Administration either didn't even know this was going on at these immigration centers or did know of it but it was a practice used before the Trump Administration was even in existence so they just carried on as the previous administration did...

Just like the Left attacking Trump for separating children and their illegal parents and putting them in cages (which was being done during the Obama Administration), I have a feeling this may also be the case...
The OP refers to a "local member of Congress" calling for the Shiloh facility to be shut down for their abuses of children in their care.

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I am appalled by record of abuse and mistreatment of children at the Shiloh Treatment Center in Manvel documented by the Houston Chronicle in an expose published December 19, 2014. The abuses documented in that report – ranging from physical violence, unreasonable and excessive use of physical restraints, administering emergency medications without notice to governmental authorities, and several deaths of minor children while in custody – is not reflective of the quality of care and support that should be provided to the at-risk children, including the dozens of unaccompanied immigrant children, committed to its care.

“Because of these deficiencies I believe the time has come for the State of Texas to order the closure of the Shiloh Treatment Center. At a minimum, the Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services should terminate immediately the contract awarded to Shiloh Treatment Center to provide shelter and treatment to unaccompanied children apprehended by the Border Patrol.
The WaPo of course doesn't mention that the call was made in 2014 by long time Democrat Trump hater Shiela Jackson Lee. Of course that was during the Obama administration so no activist group filed a lawsuit, no self appointed expert on the Federal bench decrees superior rights to illegal alien "parents" and self righteous political partisans didn't puff themselves up with self anointed moral authority.

That's not to claim there were no abuses at the Shiloh center. But the WaPo once again exercises its political bias with a dishonest caption of "Judge Orders Trump Administration" for alleged practices that were taking place long before Trump entered office.
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So, despite a public objection 2014, no action was taken until it said President Trump on the Oval office door.

Go it.

Once again proving that the man's very name "GET'S THINGS DONE"
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I have a strong feeling the Trump Administration either didn't even know this was going on at these immigration centers or did know of it but it was a practice used before the Trump Administration was even in existence so they just carried on as the previous administration did...

Just like the Left attacking Trump for separating children and their illegal parents and putting them in cages (which was being done during the Obama Administration), I have a feeling this may also be the case...
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The WaPo of course doesn't mention that the call was made in 2014 by long time Democrat Trump hater Shiela Jackson Lee. Of course that was during the Obama administration so no activist group filed a lawsuit, no self appointed expert on the Federal bench decrees superior rights to illegal alien "parents" and self righteous political partisans didn't puff themselves up with self anointed moral authority.

That's not to claim there were no abuses at the Shiloh center. But the WaPo once again exercises its political bias with a dishonest caption of "Judge Orders Trump Administration" for alleged practices that were taking place long before Trump entered office.
Thank you for confirming my suspicions...
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This deceitful headlining did not work out well when the media, and poster's here, tried it with Obama's detained kids in cages.

Why would anyone think intelligent and informed people would fall for it this time?
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This deceitful headlining did not work out well when the media, and poster's here, tried it with Obama's detained kids in cages.

Why would anyone think intelligent and informed people would fall for it this time?
Michael Moore tactic...if you hate someone for 10 reasons, make up 30 more to sway those on the fence...
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