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Accepting bribes more important than upholding the Constitution, says Trump Administration.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/11/polit...ing/index.html

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President Donald Trump should not be barred from renting rooms to foreign governments, even those that say publicly say they are doing so to curry the President's favor, a Trump administration attorney argued Monday.
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Arguing the emoluments clause of the Constitution is "not a comprehensive conflict of interest" rule, Deputy Assistant Attorney General Brett Shumate told a federal court the President must actually take action favorable to the foreign government -- a quid pro quo, or exchange -- to run afoul of the law.
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Trump is not responsible for a foreign official's "unilateral attempt to sow favor," Shumate said.
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At one point, federal district judge Peter Messitte asked: "How is that different from bribery?"
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Bribery, Shumate said, would require the President to have "some corrupt intent."
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Maryland and Washington DC are suing, claiming Trump's ownership of the Trump International Hotel in Washington puts other hotels at a disadvantage in attracting business.
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Messitte said he would decide by the end of July if the case should move forward or, as the administration has asked, if he will dismiss the case.
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Maryland Solicitor General Steven Sullivan said Monday a cloud of corruption hangs over Trump's ownership of the hotel "irrespective of whether such influence is actually being brought to bear."
The administration's reading of the Constitution "would prohibit the President from receiving $5 to carry a foreign diplomat's bags, but allow him to receive thousands of dollars to rent the same foreign government event space," Sullivan said.
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Maryland Attorney General Karl Racine told reporters after the hearing that if the judge allows the case to move forward, he will move towards requesting hotel financial records. He would not say whether the plaintiffs will request Trump's personal tax returns.
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Accepting bribes more important than upholding the Constitution, says Trump Administration.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/11/polit...ing/index.html
There's no evidence of accepting bribes.
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There's no evidence of accepting bribes.
The left wing will say anything to keep the focus on Trump, and off themselves.
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Accepting bribes more important than upholding the Constitution, says Trump Administration.

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So what do they expect Trump to do? Tell people from certain countries they are not welcome at his hotel?
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Renting a hotel room now becomes a criminal act, if the hotel is owned by the Trump company.

Notice that the Maryland solicitor general has nothing better to do than file frivolous lawsuits against the President.
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So what do they expect Trump to do? Tell people from certain countries they are not welcome at his hotel?
yes, if it means avoiding all appearances and the possible reality of it being a conflict of interest.
The thing is that He should have divested himself from all such businesses in the 1st place.

If any congressmen owned a motel 6 and Saudi visitors "happened" to buy up rooms, any honest person would question the Saudis and the congressmen.

financial influence is all to real and Trump has spent his life trying to make more and more money partly by catering to rich clients at his hotels and casinos. It's make no sense to just dismiss this charge as partisan sour grapes.

Even if Trump were the most UNcorruptible and patriotic man in the U.S. (which he's not) He'd be compelled to at least look at his NEW well paying biz clients/guest, and accommodate them in some fashion.

The clear appearance of favoritism to these rich foreigners and gov'ts is unavoidable. The reality of it not being the case is his to prove since he's allowed himself to be in this position.
And having the assistant AG claim it's A-OK for Trump to pocket money from skeezy rich foreigners does not make him look innocent.

All it does is show that America's leaders are openly as Skeezy as foreign gov't officials where pay for access and influence is not illegal but open policy.
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yes, if it means avoiding all appearances and the possible reality of it being a conflict of interest.
The thing is that He should have divested himself from all such businesses in the 1st place.

If any congressmen owned a motel 6 and Saudi visitors "happened" to buy up rooms, any honest person would question the Saudis and the congressmen.

financial influence is all to real and Trump has spent his life trying to make more and more money partly by catering to rich clients at his hotels and casinos. It's make no sense to just dismiss this charge as partisan sour grapes.

Even if Trump were the most UNcorruptible and patriotic man in the U.S. (which he's not) He'd be compelled to at least look at his NEW well paying biz clients/guest, and accommodate them in some fashion.

The clear appearance of favoritism to these rich foreigners and gov'ts is unavoidable. The reality of it not being the case is his to prove since he's allowed himself to be in this position.
And having the assistant AG claim it's A-OK for Trump to pocket money from skeezy rich foreigners does not make him look innocent.

All it does is show that America's leaders are openly as Skeezy as foreign gov't officials where pay for access and influence is not illegal but open policy.
Trump did divest. He is no longer active in the Trump organization. That was not good enough as the family still controls.

I've seen no evidence that President Trump personally has made any decisions based on who stays at his properties.

But it wouldn't matter. President Trump said NK has lovely beaches and an opportunity to exploit them, and the left turned that into Trump wants to build condos on NK beaches.

My view is simple. Let me know when President Trump is found to be soliciting favors and make sure that rises to the level of an SOS spouse receives a couple million/speech and Russia gains 20% of our uranium resources.
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There's no evidence of accepting bribes.
As the article indicates, it doesn't matter if a quid pro quo is shown to run afoul of the law .
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Trump did divest. He is no longer active in the Trump organization. That was not good enough as the family still controls.

I've seen no evidence that President Trump personally has made any decisions based on who stays at his properties.

But it wouldn't matter. President Trump said NK has lovely beaches and an opportunity to exploit them, and the left turned that into Trump wants to build condos on NK beaches.

My view is simple. Let me know when President Trump is found to be soliciting favors and make sure that rises to the level of an SOS spouse receives a couple million/speech and Russia gains 20% of our uranium resources.
The honest thing to do would have been to divest (that means sell) or put them in a blind trust.
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As the article indicates, it doesn't matter if a quid pro quo is shown to run afoul of the law .
Not gonna argue the point. YOU said there were bribes involved.

Are there bribes involved?
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