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i really just want to point out Bolton opinion here,
please look at the articles he wrote linked in the clip to get a feel for his dark war mind set.

From Atlantic Article Striking the Syrian Regime is not legit
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...Bolton has been clear: What Assad does to his own people is not a major American concern. That’s why Bolton opposed Obama’s call (which Obama later withdrew) for striking Assad after he used chemical weapons in 2013. America’s real interest in Syria, according to Bolton, in addition to destroying ISIS, is to weaken Russia and Iran. In The National Review article, he makes clear that the only kind of military intervention in Syria he would support is one that would “not be confined to Syria and would inevitably entail confronting Iran and possibly Russia.” Now that ISIS is largely vanquished, he argued last June, the focus of American policy in Syria should be “pushing back these Iranian and Russian gains” in the country as part of a larger effort to “begin rolling back Russia’s renewed presence and influence in the Middle East.” ....

...For years, Bolton has yearned for a cold war with Russia and a hot one with Iran. Ever since taking office, Trump has yearned to show that he’s tougher and manlier than Obama and that he can make America’s adversaries tremble. Because Congress has abdicated its constitutional responsibility to declare war, Bolton and Trump are free to use Syria’s chemical attacks to do this....
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There is no doubt that Russia wants (1) a warm-water port in that part of the world; and (2) to push the US out of the Middle East, so that it may gain total influence in that part of the world.

That said, whether we should care what Assad does with his own people is really a question of whether we embrace the philosophy of realpolitik, or take a more principled approach, in which America is a moral leader in the world...
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The timing on this is very suspect....

I consider it a wag the comb over by Donald to change the negative narratives towards him and his administration....
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The timing on this is very suspect....

I consider it a wag the comb over by Donald to change the negative narratives towards him and his administration....
Even if you do not like or respect the man, it is important, nonetheless, to respect the office that he holds.

To refer to the president, flippantly, as "Donald"--rather than as "President Trump"--is to show blatant disrespect for that office...
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a.) Even if you do not like or respect the man, it is important, nonetheless, to respect the office that he holds.

b.) To refer to the president, flippantly, as "Donald"--rather than as "President Trump"--is to show blatant disrespect for that office...
a.) Very few republicans ever respected the office during the previous eight years when there was a different president in the oval office.....

b.) Pleeeeaaassee.........
All these new rules for this new president are hilarious coming from Trump voters...

BTW ~ President Tweet gets the respect he gives.....
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The strikes on Syria were 100% legal and done correctly.

Of course libs are siding with Assad.
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The strikes on Syria were 100% legal and done correctly.

Of course libs are siding with Assad.
I'm not a lib, and I oppose these strikes. Could you explain how our bombing another country because of something that happened within that counry's borders that had nothing to do with us is legal?

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whether we should care what Assad does with his own people is really a question of whether we embrace the philosophy of realpolitik, or take a more principled approach, in which America is a moral leader in the world...
There's nothing moral about our invasions of so many countries in the Middle East. If war didn't cause rich people to profit, we wouldn't be in so many of them.
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Even if you do not like or respect the man, it is important, nonetheless, to respect the office that he holds.

To refer to the president, flippantly, as "Donald"--rather than as "President Trump"--is to show blatant disrespect for that office...
1. So all those times conservatives referred to the previous president as something other than "President Obama", especially with the gazillion derisive nicknames they came up with, that was disrespectful to the office of the presidency as well?

What about the supporters that call him "The Donald"?

2. Trump doesn't respect the office he holds. He's uses it as a part-time gig so he can go golfing and line his properties with money on your dime.

3. He's a total a--hole that mocks, name calls, and ridicules many of the folks that are critical of him and his policies. What respect has he earned, what respect has he given the office?

I respect the office of the presidency enough to know he should not be holding it.
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Of course libs are siding with Assad.
No one is siding with Assad other than the Russians. And it's gotten to the point where even Trump through the fog of golf sweats and spray-on tan residue can recognize that Assad is a monster and anyone on his side has a serious moral failing. Of course it also probably has to do with him politically flip-flopping from when he seriously opposed a military strike in Syria when Obama was president.

Hey, Hairy, was Trump on Assad's side when he was against going after him?

As far as actual criticism of the military strike goes, it's on both the left and the right, the non-interventionist part of both sides at least. I follow Joe Walsh on Twitter, nowhere near liberal, and he is very much against us sticking our nose in yet another ME conflict.
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This guy knew that the president had to get congressional approval.
this guy knew Attacking Syria was a mistake.
Is he a liberal?
Was he on Russia's payroll? I thought that was Hillary and crews stchick.
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