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A former chief called Libya a "****show". He was right.
A former VP commented in an open mike "This is really a Fvcking big deal"


He was also right...;
We got Fvcked
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We may never know the truth of it.

The republicans will defend him with" I didn't hear him say it."

The Democrats will have to prop up the credibility of their allies in the media "we all understood what he really meant" when he didn't say it.

Or

He will have everyone else in the room, most of whom are not his friend in an election year, agree that he did say it and make him the liar.
It would surprise me if President Trump didn't say it. I expect those coming from these countries would agree.

But the question remains, why is the U S the dumping ground for the world's unwanted?
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It would surprise me if President Trump didn't say it. I expect those coming from these countries would agree.

But the question remains, why is the U S the dumping ground for the world's unwanted?
Because it says “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.” on our door.
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Because it says “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.” on our door.


Yes. That is from Lazarus's poem, The New Colossus. Regardless, I don't think any country is stupid enough that it will take freeloaders eager for the goodies its government monkeys offer them. Eh?
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Old 01-12-2018, 11:37 AM
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Here is what my #****hole looks like



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ADDIS ABABA, Ethiopia — President Trump’s dismissal of Haiti, El Salvador and African nations as “****hole countries” whose inhabitants are not desirable for U.S. immigration shocked people around the world and provoked swift condemnation.
“The African Union Commission is frankly alarmed at statements by the president of the United States when referring to migrants of African countries and others in such contemptuous terms,” said Ebba Kalondo, the spokeswoman for the African Union. “Considering the historical reality of how many Africans arrived in the U.S. during the Atlantic slave trade, this flies in the face of all accepted behavior and practice.”
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She added that the statement was particularly unpleasant coming from the leader of country that is a “global example” of how a strong and diverse country can be the product of migration, and she expressed hope that eventually “the values the U.S. is known for because of its particular experience with migration will come to bear.”
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The reaction from the United Nations human rights spokesman, Rupert Colville, was uncharacteristically blunt. He described the remark as “racist.”
“There is no other word one can use but ‘racist,’” he said at a briefing in Geneva. “You cannot dismiss entire countries and continents as ‘****holes,’ whose entire populations, who are not white, are therefore not welcome.”

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In Haiti, people took to Twitter to share pictures of their country — verdant green hills, palm trees in the sunset, and sparkling turquoise water.
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“Hey #****HolePresident!” wrote Harold Isaac. “Here is what my #****hole looks like.”
you can view here:https://twitter.com/haroldisaac


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Haiti’s ambassador to the United States condemned the statement and said his country has asked for an explanation of Trump’s comments from American officials.
“In the spirit of the people of Haiti we feel in the statements, if they were made, the president was either misinformed or miseducated about Haiti and its people, ” the ambassador, Paul G. Altidor, said in a statement.
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Altidor said the Haitian Embassy in Washington was inundated with emails from Americans apologizing for Trump’s remark, which he found heartening.
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Haiti's largest newspaper condemned it as “racist and disgraceful” and said such comments have “no place in the relations between nations or people, even less so in the mouth of a president of a nation friendly to Haiti.”
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Because it says “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.” on our door.
A little paint will fix that.

Fact is we borrow half what we spend. We are broke. We doubled the debt in 8 years. We have plenty of tired and poor here.

Add to that the fact that many of these people don't like us, and never will, and I get where President Trump is coming from.
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...countries ... react to Trump’s remark

In Africa, similar reactions celebrating the beauty of the continent's countries. A well-known presenter for South Africa’s broadcaster SABC tweeted: “Good morning from the greatest most beautiful ‘****hole country’ in the world!!”

The deputy secretary general of the African National Congress, the party once led by Nelson Mandela, hit back at Trump’s comment during a news conference in South Africa. “Ours is not a ****hole country. Neither is Haiti or any other country in distress,” Jessie Duarte said.

Meanwhile, the Daily Maverick, a Johannesburg-based news site, wryly suggested that “Casual Friday at the White House is soon to include hoods and tiki torches at this rate.”

Botswana gave a rare official response to the remarks, summoning the U.S. ambassador there “to clarify whether Botswana is regarded as a ‘****hole’ country” as well and wondering why “President Trump must use this descriptor and derogatory word when talking about countries with whom the U.S. has had cordial and mutually beneficial bilateral relations for many years.” The statement concluded by calling the remarks racist.

Kenyan political cartoonist Victor Ndula, who has criticized Trump’s immigration policies in the past, drew a “‘White’ House map of Africa,” with regions labeled as “west of the ****hole,” “southern ****hole” and “horn of the ****hole” for Kenya’s Star newspaper.

“It’s derogatory and sad to belong to countries that have been labeled ‘****hole’ countries,” lamented Moses Osani, a communications specialist on his lunch break in Nairobi. “Immigrants also contribute to the economy of the U.S. We have relatives who work so hard, some three jobs a day, working and hoping for a breakthrough for their families back home.”

On the other side of the continent, Senegal’s president, Macky Sall, said he was “shocked” by Trump’s comments. Africa and those of African ancestry "deserves the respect and consideration of all,” he wrote on Twitter.

Vicente Fox, a former president of Mexico and a harsh critic of Trump, also noted on Twitter America’s immigrant history. “Your mouth is the foulest ****hole in the world,” he wrote, addressing Trump. “With what authority do you proclaim who’s welcome in America and who’s not. America’s greatness is built on diversity, or have you forgotten your immigrant background, Donald?”
In El Salvador, news of the comments quickly shot to the top of media websites. “Donald Trump insults El Salvador,” read one headline.

El Salvador’s foreign minister, Hugo Martinez, said he is seeking an official response from U.S. authorities.

“It’s always been a foreign policy priority of our government to fight for the respect and dignity of our countrymen independent of their immigration status,” he said. “Our countrymen are hard-working people, who are always contributing to the countries where they’re living and, of course, also in our country.”
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In light of Trump’s alleged preference for immigrants from Norway, a number of users on social media were resharing a Norwegian website launched in 2016 aiming to persuade Trump-skeptical Americans to immigrate to Norway. “We are offering acute aid to descendants of emigrated Norwegians, and other Americans, considering a new start abroad,” read a welcome message on the website, “in light of the results of the U.S. presidential election.”

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One Norwegian official in Brussels deadpanned that the country might consider changing its official tourism slogan from “Powered by Nature” to “Not a ****hole,” before saying that the whole situation was a bit awkward.

Norwegians on social media also questioned the attractiveness of immigrating to a country without free health care, paid parental leave or gun control.“I’m a Norwegian who enjoyed studying & working in the US. The only thing that would attract me to emigrate to the US is your vibrant multicultural society. Don’t take that away,” tweeted Jan Egeland, head of the Norwegian Refugee Council.

Reaction across the United States, home to a large population of immigrants from these countries, was emotional.

Illinois state Sen. Kwame Raoul, the son of Haitian immigrants, said there was no “apologizing out of this.”
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Farah Larrieux, a Haitian immigrant and organizer in Miami, referenced statements Trump made in Miami’s Little Haiti neighborhood while campaigning before the 2016 election that he wanted “to be the biggest champion” for Haitian Americans.

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Farah Larrieux, a Haitian immigrant and organizer in Miami, referenced statements Trump made in Miami’s Little Haiti neighborhood while campaigning before the 2016 election that he wanted “to be the biggest champion” for Haitian Americans.

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Yes he was there trying to get votes because a lot of Hatians were protesting the Clintons for stealing relief money and more. Trump was all smiles and promises with the Americans from Haiti and the Haitian reps. Somehow he didn't say he thought they shouldn't be here when he wanted there votes, and he didn't mention Hatti was a ****hole country.


yaknow I suspect a few Trump supporters might be a surprised to hear what he calls them behind closed doors. I suspect its not "winners ".
If he's just "telling it like it is" like a regular guy
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