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again i have to say,
this isn't the 1st time presidents/candidates have done various thing During an election run with foreign gov'ts.

Nixon and Reagan did it to FAR greater consequence and extent.

In fact HILLARY did it as well ... with the Russians no less. trying to get documents and info about Trump pissing on prostitutes and the like i believe.

I've NEVER like Bannon and i'm very Glad he's not in the White House anymore. But what he describes happening here may in fact be true. But is it "treason"? meh .
Even if it's on tape with Jr saying "Tell Vlad to Give us FACTUAL info to smear Hillary please." It's nothing more than what Trump did Publicity. and again what Hillary was trying to do as well.

the fact that this type of thing is out in the MSM NOW and not 5 and 10 years from now is refreshing. but It's not "treasonous" to the point of Impeachment when put in perspective with the things that Obama and Bush could have been impeached for.
AND finally as we see here again, Trump was right about his base.
"I could shoot somebody in the middle of Time Square and I wouldn't lose voters"

But even for me, and I'm no Trump fan, all this Russia Russia Russia stuff percolates at such a low level of so called "treason" that i'm not sure how some on the have let themselves be so excited by it all.

At best I suspect Jr might lose his PUBLIC place, and maybe someone else will be fired. but as far as much more than some in congress HERUMMMPHING and the media hyperventilating over it meh, if this is all they've got then Trump is just going to roll on to 2020 unscathed.
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again i have to say,
this isn't the 1st time presidents/candidates have done various thing During an election run with foreign gov'ts.

Nixon and Reagan did it to FAR greater consequence and extent.

In fact HILLARY did it as well ... with the Russians no less. trying to get documents and info about Trump pissing on prostitutes and the like i believe.

I've NEVER like Bannon and i'm very Glad he's not in the White House anymore. But what he describes happening here may in fact be true. But is it "treason"? meh .
Even if it's on tape with Jr saying "Tell Vlad to Give us FACTUAL info to smear Hillary please." It's nothing more than what Trump did Publicity. and again what Hillary was trying to do as well.

the fact that this type of thing is out in the MSM NOW and not 5 and 10 years from now is refreshing. but It's not "treasonous" to the point of Impeachment when put in perspective with the things that Obama and Bush could have been impeached for.
AND finally as we see here again, Trump was right about his base.
"I could shoot somebody in the middle of Time Square and I wouldn't lose voters"

But even for me, and I'm no Trump fan, all this Russia Russia Russia stuff percolates at such a low level of so called "treason" that i'm not sure how some on the have let themselves be so excited by it all.

At best I suspect Jr might lose his PUBLIC place, and maybe someone else will be fired. but as far as much more than some in congress HERUMMMPHING and the media hyperventilating over it meh, if this is all they've got then Trump is just going to roll on to 2020 unscathed.
nixon resigned in disgrace. the only reason reagan didnt is because investigation was slow walked and he had alzheimers which garnered a bit of sympathy. hillary's was never proved.
the book is not only about bannon's comments as I posted a few posts back.
but if trump's claim that all this is fantasy is true, why did he get pizzed off at bannon? trump has done more to sell this book than anyone alive. they could have made a joint statement that it is lies. but trump is so paranoid he jumped the gun.

yes you should take the investigation seriously. the fbi is now looking at reince priebus notes and sean spicer takes copious notes at every job he has including the WH.
trump sending the fbi on a wild goose chase is not going to make any difference. the investigation will go forward to whatever conclusion there is.
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nixon resigned in disgrace. the only reason reagan didnt is because investigation was slow walked and he had alzheimers which garnered a bit of sympathy. hillary's was never proved.
the book is not only about bannon's comments as I posted a few posts back.
but if trump's claim that all this is fantasy is true, why did he get pizzed off at bannon? trump has done more to sell this book than anyone alive. they could have made a joint statement that it is lies. but trump is so paranoid he jumped the gun.

yes you should take the investigation seriously. the fbi is now looking at reince priebus notes and sean spicer takes copious notes at every job he has including the WH.
trump sending the fbi on a wild goose chase is not going to make any difference. the investigation will go forward to whatever conclusion there is.
I agree Trump should have keep his mouth shut.
But none of this makes what they are investigation any deeper or "treasonous" . it's still pretty low level corruption by politically standards.


and they never "proved" that Nixon or Reagan did anything in court or by official investigation. but the documents and records make the case. same with Hillary
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The fake dossier didn't work!...On to a book!...

The author of the explosive new Trump book says he can't be sure if parts of it are true

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The author of the explosive new book about Donald Trump's presidency acknowledged in an author's note that he wasn't certain all of its content was true.

Michael Wolff, the author of "Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House," included a note at the start that casts significant doubt on the reliability of the specifics contained in the rest of its pages.

Several of his sources, he says, were definitely lying to him, while some offered accounts that flatly contradicted those of others.

But some were nonetheless included in the vivid account of the West Wing's workings, in a process Wolff describes as "allowing the reader to judge" whether the sources' claims are true.
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I agree Trump should have keep his mouth shut.
But none of this makes what they are investigation any deeper or "treasonous" . it's still pretty low level corruption by politically standards.


and they never "proved" that Nixon or Reagan did anything in court or by official investigation. but the documents and records make the case. same with Hillary
its just an assessment from bannon which only underlines what we already know
you're acting like this is the first you heard of the russia meeting.
look up iran contra-they absolutely proved reagan did that. yes they did. yes.

Nixon committed obstruction of justice when he fired an investigator into Watergate. It was all going to come out and he was talked into resigning because Republicans were onboard with Democrats to impeach him.
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yes. so?
it's a biography not an indictment.
A lot more than the Russia meeting.
And Trump is selling the hell out of it.
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its just an assessment from bannon which only underlines what we already know
you're acting like this is the first you heard of the russia meeting.
look up iran contra-they absolutely proved reagan did that. yes they did. yes.

Nixon committed obstruction of justice when he fired an investigator into Watergate. It was all going to come out and he was talked into resigning because Republicans were onboard with Democrats to impeach him.
I'm talking the October surprises.
Nixon and Kissenger talking to the Vietnamese leaders
And Reagan's camp talking to the Iranians about the hostages.
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yes we already knew it.

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The "allowing the reader to judge" is the same excuse for abandoning any pretense of objective journalism used to promote the infamous dirty dossier. As long as it is anti Trump the media promotes it as gospel never mind the faint disclaimers.
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