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Thank you very much. As you know, this was a small press conference, but a very important one. And it was scheduled to talk about the great things that we're doing with the secretary on the veterans administration. And we will talk about that very much so in a little while. But I thought I should put out a comment as to what's going on in Charlottesville. So, again, I want to thank everybody for being here, in particular I want to thank our incredible veterans. And thank you, fellas. Let me shake your hand.

They're great people. Great people. But we're closely following the terrible events unfolding in Charlottesville, Virginia. We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides. It's been going on for a long time in our country. Not Donald Trump, not Barack Obama, this has been going on for a long, long time. It has no place in America. What is vital now is a swift restoration of law and order and the protection of innocent lives. No citizen should ever fear for their safety and security in our society. And no child should ever be afraid to go outside and play or be with their parents and have a good time.

I just got off the phone with the governor of Virginia, Terry McAuliffe, and we agree that the hate and the division must stop, and must stop right now. We have to come together as Americans with love for our nation and true affection-- really, I say this so strongly, true affection for each other. Our country is doing very well in so many ways. We have record -- just absolute record employment. We have unemployment the lowest it's been in almost 17 years. We have companies pouring into our country, Foxconn and car companies and so many others. They're coming back to our country. We're renegotiating trade deals to make them great for our country and great for the American worker.

We have so many incredible things happening in our country, so when I watch Charlottesville, to me it's very, very sad. I want to salute the great work of the state and local police in Virginia. Incredible people. Law enforcement, incredible people. And also the National Guard. They've really been working smart and working hard. They've been doing a terrific job. Federal authorities are also providing tremendous support to the governor. He thanked me for that. And we are here to provide whatever other assistance is needed. We are ready, willing and able. Above all else, we must remember this truth: No matter our color, creed, religion or political party, we are all Americans first. We love our country. We love our God.

We love our flag. We're proud of our country. We're proud of who we are, so we want to get the situation straightened out in Charlottesville, and we want to study it. And we want to see what we're doing wrong as a country where things like this can happen. My administration is restoring the sacred bonds of loyalty between this nation and its citizens, but our citizens must also restore the bonds of trust and loyalty between one another. We must love each other, respect each other and cherish our history and our future together. So important. We have to respect each other. Ideally, we have to love each other.

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For Trump, I think that was actually pretty Good.
personally, I'm weary of all the BS division and racial BSery.
Somehow "Divide and conquer" keeps coming to my mind.
And also the fact that since we don't have a serious enemy abroad. it seems that some folks can't stand to live without some drama.
Russia's NOT really a hardcore enemy, ISIS and Islamic terrorism is not a LARGE threat when put in perspective, neither is North Korea.
Identity Politics is stupid and proven wrong and dangerous in WW2 Germany, but do we learn from history?

Some of Trump's words here strike the proper tone IMO.
"Above all else, we must remember this truth: No matter our color, creed, religion or political party, we are all Americans first. We love our country. We love our God."

that's a move in the right direction.
If he'd take it to the next step of reaffirming the HUMANITY of all the above as being equal. that'd take some wind out of the white supremacist supporters, Or at least have them making excuses about how he "HAS to SAY that" While they continue to believe that Trump is "one of them".

I'm no Trump Fan but I still WANT him to do things WELL as President... ...because he's the President of the U.S..

the sad thing is, Just as Obama's MANY words of a similar tone (and frankly moreso and better) fell on the right's ear's as INSINCERE. because some on the right just "KNOW" Obama's a racist. And they somehow were completely deaf to his repeated praise of police and repeated condemnation of violence, promotion of equal justice and promotion of national unity. In the same way, Trump's detractors are looking for the worse in his words (or lack of words) because they just "KNOW" Trump's a racist, rather than trying to find any bridges to reconcile this BSery that the racial and political extremist/alarmist ...and Media Hypers... are promoting.
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yes russia is a hard core enemy
they have interfered in elections around the world including the us
if that isnt a danger i dont know what is
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For Trump, I think that was actually pretty Good.
personally, I'm weary of all the BS division and racial BSery.
Somehow "Divide and conquer" keeps coming to my mind.
And also the fact that since we don't have a serious enemy abroad. it seems that some folks can't stand to live without some drama.
Russia's NOT really a hardcore enemy, ISIS and Islamic terrorism is not a LARGE threat when put in perspective, neither is North Korea.
Identity Politics is stupid and proven wrong and dangerous in WW2 Germany, but do we learn from history?

Some of Trump's words here strike the proper tone IMO.
"Above all else, we must remember this truth: No matter our color, creed, religion or political party, we are all Americans first. We love our country. We love our God."

that's a move in the right direction.
If he'd take it to the next step of reaffirming the HUMANITY of all the above as being equal. that'd take some wind out of the white supremacist supporters, Or at least have them making excuses about how he "HAS to SAY that" While they continue to believe that Trump is "one of them".

I'm no Trump Fan but I still WANT him to do things WELL as President... ...because he's the President of the U.S..

the sad thing is, Just as Obama's MANY words of a similar tone (and frankly moreso and better) fell on the right's ear's as INSINCERE. because some on the right just "KNOW" Obama's a racist. And they somehow were completely deaf to his repeated praise of police and repeated condemnation of violence, promotion of equal justice and promotion of national unity. In the same way, Trump's detractors are looking for the worse in his words (or lack of words) because they just "KNOW" Trump's a racist, rather than trying to find any bridges to reconcile this BSery that the racial and political extremist/alarmist ...and Media Hypers... are promoting.
he is that racist bigot that some people of color give a pass cause he didn't actually say the word n.
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yes russia is a hard core enemy
they have interfered in elections around the world including the us
if that isnt a danger i dont know what is
First the Muslims? Now Russia? Were they in Charlottesville to?
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First the Muslims? Now Russia? Were they in Charlottesville to?
russia interfered in your constitutional rights.
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yes russia is a hard core enemy
they have interfered in elections around the world including the us
if that isnt a danger i dont know what is
And the U.S. has meddled in elections around the world as well... of both friends and enemies.
Assassinated leaders and stirred up revolutions no less.

That's just part of how horrible all gov't are.

As far as the effectiveness or the EXTENT of Russia's involvement in our recent U.S. elections. It's been shown that the reports of such are OVERBLOWN... or lies.
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And the U.S. has meddled in elections around the world as well... of both friends and enemies.
Assassinated leaders and stirred up revolutions no less.

That's just part of how horrible all gov't are.

As far as the effectiveness or the EXTENT of Russia's involvement in our recent U.S. elections. It's been shown that the reports of such are OVERBLOWN... or lies.
no it hasnt been "shown"
in fact it is a published fact they did. they may not have turned any tide but what about next time?
the russian govt are not our friends
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he is that racist bigot that some people of color give a pass cause he didn't actually say the word n.
I don't want to "give a PASS" to Trump for thing's that he's done or said that are, IN FACT, racist.
HOWEVER at what point do we STOP slapping people's hands who are reaching out (awkwardly even) and TRYING to say and do the RIGHT things.

Is it the BEST policy to condemn EACH action and bring up ever wrong of the past when an official makes a move in a positive direction?
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no it hasnt been "shown"
in fact it is a published fact they did. they may not have turned any tide but what about next time?
the russian govt are not our friends
Who said the Russian Gov't is our friend?
No one really.

As far as protecting our elections go. Frankly I'm more concerned about people like Hillary and the corrupt DNC. they had FAR MORE effect on the election than Russia ever did.
But are we condemning THEM as horrible ENEMIES of the REALM... or as concerned about "NEXT TIME" with them.
And we've got a LOT more to fix... and ADMIT... about our election processes DOMESTICALLY than any major concerns about influence from abroad.
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