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Old 08-18-2017, 12:21 PM
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I know ANTIFA thugs kicked the sh1t out of him before he ran them down.

Do you suppose that was a factor?

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Old 08-18-2017, 01:10 PM
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Here is the problem as I see it. Too many people are looking to be aggrieved at Trump's statement. While I am not a Trumpster or a Trump apologist, I have to defend him on this one.

It seems that those on the left and even some on the right, are wanting Trump to come out and condemn the KKK, the nazi's, etc., for the violence in C'Ville. What they fail to accept is that he did.

But the media wasn't happy with that. When he attempted to hold press conference on infrastructure, true to form, the media derailed that press conference in an attempt to paint Trump as a racist and pushed that narrative back into his face.

Most politicians would have succumbed to questions and apologized for not condemning anyone that disagreed with the left's narrative as soon as they heard anything about any violence. But Trump is NOT your typical politician.

What he said in his original statement was correct, both sides were responsible for the violence. That is not to say that both sides murdered someone, but just that both sides played a part in creating the conditions that led to the young ladies death.

He also stated that not everyone present at the rally condoned the violence and that there are those that disagree with the removal of statues that don't belong to any of these fringe groups. However, many in the media and even some here miss that point. In their eyes, it is a simple black and white issue, you are either siding with the left or with the nazi's, there is no middle ground. And they would be wrong.

So then the media jumps Trump in his press conference and Trump does what he does best. He knows what he was saying was factually correct and he defends himself. He is exactly right, the violence was started and performed by both sides of the protests. There were those on the right that were trying to inflict as much harm on the other side that they could, with one succeeding in killing someone, just as there were those on the left attempting to do the same, but not succeeding in killing anyone. But we only want to condemn one side? That is disingenuous.
As I mentioned, in my 1st post. Trump didn't do that bad his 1st and second outings. After that instead of ... doing as you say... succumbed to questions , he does what he does, he went ignorantly and clumsily on the offense/defense... He seems oblivious to any 3rd or 4th options... letting the "media hype" blow over and continue to address the mourners and those that are working FOR better relations... from all sides.
It WAS a HUGE missed opportunity for him.

He'd rather play to the media than to the issue or the larger body of American people. the fact that the "media wasn't happy with him" isn't a real problem. he's the president.
Bush, Obama and Clinton knew how to respond to incidents of this nature. even IF the media and various segments of the public thought the CIC "insincere" or otherwise.

And I'd take issue as well with your comment here
"What he said in his original statement was correct, both sides were responsible for the violence. That is not to say that both sides murdered someone, but just that both sides played a part in creating the conditions that led to the young ladies death."
well the motive of Guy that tried to kill 20+ people hadn't really been dealt with fully at the time of Trump's initial words i don't think. And again here I think this is something everyone needs to decide where they want to decide BLAME comes from in these incidents.
Does the provocation really justify Murder to the point of blame?
Is a wife's bitching causing the condition which, by default, will likely get her killed? Is she the one that needs to EQUALLY addressed?

IMO there no excuse, for punches or sticks but certainly no "condition" from the safety of your car, that makes running over people walking in the street acceptable. There's no "conditions" that nullify that action or the NAZI/KKK thoughts of others that might help justify that action.
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He doesn't need one, they just know, regardless of the facts.
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