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so what's changed in Russia that makes them such a horrific threat now that wasn't there when Obama said "the cold war is over"?


please be specific.
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Conservative author Ann Coulter praised Trump on Tuesday after he publicly denounced the "alt-left" for contributing to violence during a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Va. this weekend.

"We were Gideon's army without Gideon. Today, we got our leader back," Coulter tweeted following the president's remarks.
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Trump blamed "both sides" for the violence in Charlottesville, Va. this past weekend, doubling down on his prior statements against the "alt-left."
"What about the alt-left that came charging at, as you say, at the alt-right? Do they have any assemblage of guilt?" Trump told reporters at Trump Tower.
"What about the fact that they came charging with clubs in their hands swinging clubs? Do they have any problem? I think they do. That was a horrible, horrible day."
Ann Coulter cheers Trump: 'Today we got our leader back' | Fox News
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President Trump was absolutely correct. The alt.right. whatever that is, applied for and got a permit to hold a protest. The alt.left, whatever that is, got wind of it and decided to hold a protest same time same place. Both came locked and loaded. What could possibly go wrong?
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annndd it's over.

AH well, Trump had a few moments of actually not just criticizing the left only and again.
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I'll wait for an ensuing sh!tstorm..
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annndd it's over.

AH well, Trump had a few moments of actually not just criticizing the left only and again.
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I'll wait for an ensuing sh!tstorm..
OK Lollie do you think it was wrong for Trump criticize white nationalist WITHOUT mentioning "others"? After he BEGAN all of his remarks by talking about "ALL SIDES"?

Or do you think it was bad for Trump to talk about EVERYONE loving each other as an ideal?

I mean i'm not sure exactly what you or Ann Colter are so happy about?
With this sadly predictable criticism of the wrongdoing of those on the left.
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OK Lollie do you think it was wrong for Trump criticize white nationalist WITHOUT mentioning "others"? After he BEGAN all of his remarks by talking about "ALL SIDES"?

Or do you think it was bad for Trump to talk about EVERYONE loving each other as an ideal?

I mean i'm not sure exactly what you or Ann Colter are so happy about?
With this sadly predictable criticism of the wrongdoing of those on the left.
I think Trump did the flippety flop there for a bit.

Methinks me and Ms Coulter are thrilled that the president finally said what needed to be said.
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I think Trump did the flippety flop there for a bit.

Methinks me and Ms Coulter are thrilled that the president finally said what needed to be said.
OK so what needed to be said that wasn't said when he ONLY said "ALL SIDES" the 1st time?

and please, could you answer my others questions more directly?
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no it hasn't been "shown"
in fact it is a published fact they did. ...
From the Nation Magazine.... and others
https://www.thenation.com/article/a-...ears-dnc-hack/
A New Report Raises Big Questions About Last Year’s DNC Hack
Former NSA experts say it wasn’t a hack at all, but a leak—an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system.
By Patrick LawrenceTwitter AUGUST 9, 2017
...The metadata established several facts in this regard with granular precision: On the evening of July 5, 2016, 1,976 megabytes of data were downloaded from the DNC’s server. The operation took 87 seconds. This yields a transfer rate of 22.7 megabytes per second...
“A speed of 22.7 megabytes is simply unobtainable, especially if we are talking about a transoceanic data transfer,” Folden said. “Based on the data we now have, what we’ve been calling a hack is impossible.” ...
...These statistics are matters of record and essential to disproving the hack theory. No Internet service provider, such as a hacker would have had to use in mid-2016, was capable of downloading data at this speed....
also
....Time stamps in the metadata indicate the download occurred somewhere on the East Coast of the United States—not Russia, Romania, or anywhere else outside the EDT zone....


Latest Example of Media Recklessness on the Russia Threat
Glenn Greenwald
June 27 2017, 9:03 a.m.
THREE PROMINENT CNN journalists resigned Monday night after the network was forced to retract and apologize for a story linking Trump ally Anthony Scaramucci to a Russian investment fund under congressional investigation. That article — like so much Russia reporting from the U.S. media — was based on a single anonymous source, and now, the network cannot vouch for the accuracy of its central claims....
— CNN said that “standard editorial processes were not followed when the article was published.” The resignations follow CNN’s Friday night retraction of the story, in which it apologized to Scaramucci:...

BUT CNN IS hardly alone when it comes to embarrassing retractions regarding Russia. Over and over, major U.S. media outlets have published claims about the Russia Threat that turned out to be completely false — always in the direction of exaggerating the threat and/or inventing incriminating links between Moscow and the Trump circle. In virtually all cases, those stories involved evidence-free assertions from anonymous sources that these media outlets uncritically treated as fact, only for it to be revealed that they were entirely false.

Several of the most humiliating of these episodes have come from the Washington Post. On December 30, .. Russian hackers, the paper claimed based on anonymous sources, had hacked into the “U.S. electricity grid” through a Vermont utility...Literally every facet of that story turned out to be false...

Slate ... a secret server had been discovered that the Trump Organization used to communicate with a Russian bank. After that story was hyped by Hillary Clinton herself, multiple news outlets (including The Intercept) debunked it, ... Ultimately, the Washington Post made clear how reckless the claims were:..

In the same time period — December 2016 — The Guardian published a story .. claiming that WikiLeaks and its founder, Julian Assange, had “long had a close relationship with the Putin regime.” That claim, along with several others in the story, was fabricated, and The Guardian was forced to append a retraction to the story:...

...C-SPAN .. announced that its network had been “interrupted by RT programming”:..numerous media outlets, such as Fortune, to claim that this occurred due to Russian hacking – yet that, too, turned out to be totally baseless, and Fortune was forced to renounce the claim:

...Perhaps the most significant Russia falsehood came from CrowdStrike, the firm hired by the DNC to investigate the hack of its email servers. Again in the same time period — December 2016 — the firm issued a new report accusing Russian hackers of nefarious activities involving the Ukrainian army, which numerous outlets, including (of course) the Washington Post, uncritically hyped...Yet that story also fell apart. In March, the firm “revised and retracted statements it used to buttress claims of Russian hacking during last year’s American presidential election campaign” after several experts questioned its claims, and “CrowdStrike walked back key parts of its Ukraine report.”

https://theintercept.com/2017/06/27/...russia-threat/
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so yes Salt, the Russia stories have been shown/admitted to be false and the main alleged Russian DNC "hack" shows clear evidence of being a DNC insider LEAK.
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