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Perhaps they have something on Trump? Just because someone is rich doesn't mean they don't have a price. I would like to see Trump more concerned about how it effected America instead of how it might effect President Trump.
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That's the big question. Why would the Rusians prefer Trump, a loose cannon who probably can't be bought, over Clinton, who they already have?
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What do they mean when they say hacked? What actually happened? You and everyone else have no ideas. For all we know it was all done through Hillary and the DNC. But no one is giving any specifics.

In your words, please tell us what happened? you have had 6 months of investigating, you must have something more than "they hacked the election" in Democrat speak, please tell us what that means.

Or are you a Dem Bot that can only say "Russian's hacked the election" other than that phrase, no one knows nuthin'

Only a Dem Bot would keep playing that card over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over..............get my point ? Course you don't .
Yes it's on the top of your head they make special hats for that.

You can look it up yourself arguing with trump bots is a waste of time it's like trying to convince a flat earther the earth is round or a holocaust denier millions of Jews were killed or possibly trying to convince a racist not to be racist. That journey you need to take when you are ready and you are not ready yet and may not be in your lifetime.
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Perhaps they have something on Trump? Just because someone is rich doesn't mean they don't have a price. I would like to see Trump more concerned about how it effected America instead of how it might effect President Trump.
More likely, they would have something on Clinton. Either Clinton.

The Russkie/Trump is a manufactured reason why the Dems lost the election. After 250 days there is no evidence indicating otherwise. If you have some, I'd like to see it.
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My god, Clinton is not the president. Who cares. Trumps behavior is trumps behavior, it has nothing to do with Clinton. Read my post, I think trump should be more concerned with Russians meddling in our election (Trump is the only one questioning this, kinda like global warming) and what that means to America, than moral equivancy with Hillary or what their meddling might mean to President Trump.
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More likely, they would have something on Clinton. Either Clinton.

The Russkie/Trump is a manufactured reason why the Dems lost the election. After 250 days there is no evidence indicating otherwise. If you have some, I'd like to see it.
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My god, Clinton is not the president. Who cares. Trumps behavior is trumps behavior, it has nothing to do with Clinton. Read my post, I think trump should be more concerned with Russians meddling in our election (Trump is the only one questioning this, kinda like global warming) and what that means to America, than moral equivancy with Hillary or what their meddling might mean to President Trump.
Got any evidence the Russians meddled in and changed the out come of the election as Jimbo asked you for?

Amazing how you dodge even the simplest of requests, as if you do so on purpose, so you will not have to defend your beliefs.

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That's the big question. Why would the Rusians prefer Trump,
Because Putin hates Clinton blames her for the unrest during the 2011 election. Why don't you know that? After Russian Vote, Putin Claims Clinton Incited Unrest - The New York Times

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a loose cannon who probably can't be bought, over Clinton, who they already have?
trumps not a loose cannon to putin he admires him and has serious financial dealings with russian banks. Where is your proof they already bought Clinton?
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Where is your proof they already bought Clinton?
The uranium mine deal you dolt.

Clinton is a criminal and should be in jail.

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Because Putin hates Clinton blames her for the unrest during the 2011 election. Why don't you know that? After Russian Vote, Putin Claims Clinton Incited Unrest - The New York Times



trumps not a loose cannon to putin he admires him and has serious financial dealings with russian banks. Where is your proof they already bought Clinton?
A 2011 article where Putin blamed external sources for internal unrest? that's your big proof? that is Putin playing politics, not all that dissimilar from Democrats and the media blaming Russia for Trump's victory in the election.

During the campaign Trump promised to rebuild or military and press NATO allies to meet their defense spending commitments. That is a directly opposed to Russian expansionist dreams. In contrast, Hillary with her history of selling US strategic interests through the Clinton Foundation, bungled reset button, and heir to Obama's "flexibility" towards Putin offered a much more attractive choice based on publicly available information. That is why never Trumper's are forced to claim Putin wanted Trump to win based on secret information, trust us.

The Russian banks and oligarchs financing Trump claim is based on speculation and a statement by Trump Jr drawn wildly out of context. Trump has shown interest in expanding into Russia but the interest never can to fruition.

Putin bought the Clinton's with a deal for Uranium One, a Canadian based company that controlled roughly 20% of US uranium mining rights. Uranium is considered a strategic asset and so the transactions had to be approved by the Federal government including the State Department headed by Hillary Clinton at the time. Hillary through her husband and the Clinton Foundation profited mightily from the deal.

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As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium Oneís chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well.

And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/u...m-company.html

See the difference? the Trump dealings with Russian banks smear is based on the thinnest of connections and secret intelligence whereas the Russians buying Hillary is backed by verifiable evidence.
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The party that claims to love personal responsibility can't get the names Obama and Clinton out of their mouths fast enough.
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