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Default Slow pace of Trump nominations leaves Cabinet agencies ‘stuck’ in staffing limbo

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President Trump’s Cabinet secretaries are growing exasperated at how slowly the White House is moving to fill hundreds of top-tier posts, warning that the vacancies are hobbling efforts to oversee agency operations and promote the president’s agenda, according to administration officials, lawmakers and lobbyists.

The Senate has confirmed 26 of Trump’s picks for his Cabinet and other top posts. But for 530 other vacant senior-level jobs requiring Senate confirmation, the president has advanced just 37 nominees, according to data tracked by The Washington Post and the nonpartisan Partnership for Public Service’s Center for Presidential Transition. These posts include the deputy secretaries and undersecretaries, chief financial officers, ambassadors, general counsels, and heads of smaller agencies who run the government day-to-day.

That’s less than half the nominees President Barack Obama had sent to the Senate by this point in his first term.

Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, who has publicly expressed frustration with the process, has routinely peppered the White House Personnel Office for updates and called Trump directly to press for faster action on filling vacant jobs at the Interior Department, said two people familiar with his contacts, who like others spoke on the condition of anonymity for this report because of the sensitivity of hiring discussions.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.876823164dec

Yeah, but what's Trump's golf score?
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More garbage from Wa Po. Why didn't you throw on a NYT piece along with it?

Democrats are the only reason the cabinet is so slow to fill.

Obstructionist and belligerent idiots who will not support a single thing Trump backs. Even if it is for the good of the country. Obama really did a number on the Democrats, along with Clinton.

Whiners and babies are all the left are these days. Leaderless, adrift, azzhurt liberal, and mostly minority's who are more racists than the whites.

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More garbage from Wa Po. Why didn't you throw on a NYT piece along with it?

Democrats are the only reason the cabinet is so slow to fill.

Obstructionist and belligerent idiots who will not support a single thing Trump backs. Even if it is for the good of the country. Obama really did a number on the Democrats, along with Clinton.

Whiners and babies are all the left are these days. Leaderless, adrift, azzhurt liberal, and mostly minority's who are more racists than the whites.

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I'm going to need a little clarification on this.

There are 530 other vacant senior-level jobs requiring Senate confirmation but the president has advanced just 37 nominees. Of the 37 nominated 26 have already been confirmed.

So exactly how are Democrats in the Senate blocking or delaying the confirmation of 493 appointments where no one's been nominated?

Prior to the election many of the top conservative journalists on editorial boards condemned Trump for being unfit and unqualified to be president and now we can add unprepared to be president to that. He had no clue as to what the president was responsible for and that left Trump unprepared to fill the positions where he had to provide nominees for the Senate to approve. This had nothing to do with Democrats and everything to do with the incompetent Trump administration.
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More garbage from Wa Po. Why didn't you throw on a NYT piece along with it?
Democrats are the only reason the cabinet is so slow to fill.
Gawd this is such a dumb lie.
The article clearly states "slow pace of Trump nominations"
Democrats can't obstruct what was never proposed.
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I'm going to need a little clarification on this.

There are 530 other vacant senior-level jobs requiring Senate confirmation but the president has advanced just 37 nominees. Of the 37 nominated 26 have already been confirmed.

So exactly how are Democrats in the Senate blocking or delaying the confirmation of 493 appointments where no one's been nominated?

Prior to the election many of the top conservative journalists on editorial boards condemned Trump for being unfit and unqualified to be president and now we can add unprepared to be president to that. He had no clue as to what the president was responsible for and that left Trump unprepared to fill the positions where he had to provide nominees for the Senate to approve. This had nothing to do with Democrats and everything to do with the incompetent Trump administration.
Here is your clarification.From an April 11th article.
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President Donald Trump is issuing a presidential memorandum that will call for a rethinking of the entire structure of the federal government, a move that could eventually lead to a downsizing of the overall workforce and changes to the basic functions and responsibilities of many agencies.

The order, which will go into effect Thursday, also will lift a blanket federal hiring freeze that has been in place since Trump’s first day in office almost three months ago and replace it with hiring targets in line with the spending priorities the administration laid out in March, said Mick Mulvaney, director of the Office of Management and Budget.

The move is a part of Trump’s campaign pledge to "drain the swamp" and get rid of what the administration views as inefficiencies in the federal government, Mulvaney said. It comes as the White House also is trying to curb the size of many government agencies through a proposed budget that calls for historically deep spending cuts to everything from medical research to clean-energy programs.
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...reorganization

Instead of populating the executive branch with activist political operatives as John Podesta did for Obama, Trump is in the process of restructuring the executive branch to make it more efficient and effective at governance rather than partisan warfare. It is the difference between the corrupt Chicago style approach of the community organizer and the sensibility of a successful businessman.

Since I have answered your question, please return the courtesy by explaining why Senate Democrats have slow walked Trump's nominees despite their qualifications. Nearly 1/3 of the nominations are still awaiting confirmation. But the big problem is supposed to be that Trump hasn't built up the backlog big enough.
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Democrats are the only reason the cabinet is so slow to fill.
Actually, that's not it...

Security clearances and new blood are the main reasons...

Nominating someone and THEN having them go through security clearances is risky (see "Matthis")...We've already seen even more examples...

The people Trump wants nominated are going through the security clearances FIRST so they get a clean bill of health...and THEN they'll get nominated...

Security clearances normally take between 90 and 120 days to be granted....Being a non-politician, Trump had ideas about who is cabinet was going to be (and the Democrats did slow-roll them), but he didn't know enough of the bureaucracy to know who would be a good "deputy assistant to State" or some of the lower-level positions...In fact, Trump has avoided the bureaucracy in many cases...

Establishment politicos like Obama and Bush brought in people who have been in political positions for years...if not decades...Trump has shown that he wants new blood in many of those same positions, so the people he's choosing are new to the scene and starting from scratch...Obviously, a much longer process...
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Trump has shown that he wants new blood in many of those same positions, so the people he's choosing are new to the scene and starting from scratch...Obviously, a much longer process...
This would also tend to indicate that those nominated won't have the resume necessary for the positions and that will delay confirmation as well. Trump has already nominated and had confirmed appointees that lacked the qualifications for the positions such as Betsy DeVos that had no academic background or experience in education as Sect of Education or those that were clearly the wrong person for the position such as Scott Pruitt that describes himself as "a leading advocate against the EPA" to head of the EPA.

This actually seems to be a Trump plan to destroy the government by appointing those opposed Congressionally authorized agencies with defined responsibilities by appointing people that will intentionally fail to fulfill the responsibilities of the agency.

Does anyone seriously believe that Attorney General Jeff Session's is actually going to enforce civil rights laws like the Voting Rights Act and Civil Rights Act?
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Here is your clarification.From an April 11th article.


https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...reorganization

Instead of populating the executive branch with activist political operatives as John Podesta did for Obama, Trump is in the process of restructuring the executive branch to make it more efficient and effective at governance rather than partisan warfare. It is the difference between the corrupt Chicago style approach of the community organizer and the sensibility of a successful businessman.

Since I have answered your question, please return the courtesy by explaining why Senate Democrats have slow walked Trump's nominees despite their qualifications. Nearly 1/3 of the nominations are still awaiting confirmation. But the big problem is supposed to be that Trump hasn't built up the backlog big enough.
An agency cannot be evaluated if it lacks the head of the department and all of the federal agencies I'm aware of were created by Congress with defined rolls and responsibilities that must be carried out. Trump can't cut those agencies or understaff them so that they can't fulfill their responsibilities. That would be a clear violation of Article II's requirement that he faithfully fulfill the responsibilities of office.

I can understand that Trump doesn't know this but the rest of us should.

BTW - In searching for Democrats delaying Trump appointments I wasn't able to find any delaying tactics since January or February when Trump was nominating people that never should have been nominated or confirmed. No President has ever made worse selections for the different appointed positions of responsibility. Even Republicans cringed but worried that if they didn't confirm that Trump would pick someone worse.
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This would also tend to indicate that those nominated won't have the resume necessary for the positions and that will delay confirmation as well. Trump has already nominated and had confirmed appointees that lacked the qualifications for the positions such as Betsy DeVos that had no academic background or experience in education as Sect of Education or those that were clearly the wrong person for the position such as Scott Pruitt that describes himself as "a leading advocate against the EPA" to head of the EPA.

This actually seems to be a Trump plan to destroy the government by appointing those opposed Congressionally authorized agencies with defined responsibilities by appointing people that will intentionally fail to fulfill the responsibilities of the agency.

Does anyone seriously believe that Attorney General Jeff Session's is actually going to enforce civil rights laws like the Voting Rights Act and Civil Rights Act?
Shiva, this tends to indicate nothing of the sort. The fact that DeVos, your example, is not a perfessor does not make her unqualified. So too Pruitt. A leading advocate against is unqualified, but a leading advocate for would be?

Nothing wrong with a nominee with a desire to take his department down a notch or two if that's what needs to be done.

None of the above is an attempt to destroy government. Reducing the size, or reallocating resources is what President Trump was hired to do. For some reason, Candidate Trump won. President Trump won. As the winner, President Trump makes the picks.
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This would also tend to indicate that those nominated won't have the resume necessary for the positions and that will delay confirmation as well.
Bullsh*t...

Only a Lefty would believe that a person with a lifetime in political positions is the best person for the job and a person who has spent a lifetime in successful business is the wrong person for the job...
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