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Old 03-19-2017, 09:47 PM
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President Donald Trump's election victory came amid promises to crack down on illegal immigration, perform mass deportations and build a wall along the southern border. But as Trump has begun to implement his hard-line policies, American public opinion seems to be turning against the president.

Only 27 percent of respondents from a CNN/ORC poll released Wednesday believe that the government should attempt to deport all undocumented immigrants, while 71 percent believe the government should not be attempting that kind of mass deportation. What's striking about these responses is how they have trended toward acceptance of undocumented immigrants in recent years.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/acceptanc...124002872.html

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Old 03-19-2017, 10:35 PM
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Among the entire sample,
28% described themselves as Democrats,
25% described themselves as Republicans
, and 47%
described themselv
es as independents or members of another party
more dems than republicans, and the 47% we have no way of knowing how they lean. I would guess that most of those leaned left.

Another one of CNN fake news stories. We have no way to ascertain the 47% party affiliations.
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more dems than republicans, and the 47% we have no way of knowing how they lean. I would guess that most of those leaned left.
Well I doubt they are members of the KKK

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Another one of CNN fake news stories. We have no way to ascertain the 47% party affiliations.
So what?

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this fake news meme has run its course like a virus and is over now.
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more dems than republicans, and the 47% we have no way of knowing how they lean. I would guess that most of those leaned left.

Another one of CNN fake news stories. We have no way to ascertain the 47% party affiliations.
Yeah I'm sure that three point gap in party affiliation, a similar difference in what you see in the last election results, is the lynchpin argument in countering a 71-27 survey result against Trump's deportation tactics, a forty-four point difference.

You are right though that we can't ever know how the 47% of independent leaners think, but then don't go and assume that they're mostly lefties just because you don't like the results of the poll.
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go and assume that they're mostly lefties just because you don't like the results of the poll.
The media IS left wing for sure, no doubt about that. Their polling record is not worth a damn, proven fact. They have no one to blame but them selves.

In the last election there were many people who voted for the first time in decades. This is the error in their polling. With so many who usually don't vote at all, it means that polling is never going to be accurate in an election, as with so many unknown who might vote, a predictable outcome is hard to come up with. As just a farmer, who knows this, I have to wonder why the left wing media is to stupid to know this.

As for acceptance this is just another left wing story. Trump was elected largely on just this one issue. Liberal idiots will try and say other wise.

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more dems than republicans, and the 47% we have no way of knowing how they lean. I would guess that most of those leaned left.

Another one of CNN fake news stories. We have no way to ascertain the 47% party affiliations.
The 27% v 71% are all Americans and trying to make this a partisan issue is the "fake news" because it's the "American" that's important and not the political party.

The REAL NEWS is that 71% of Americans oppose Trump's mass deportation and 27% of Americans support it.

Implying that it's a Party Issue is the FAKE NEWS.
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The media IS left wing for sure, no doubt about that.

Regards, Kirk
In fact there's little creditable evidence of the media being left wing that I can see.

If the media was truly left wing it would have been pointing out that Trump's repeatedly making false statements are what he believes to be true because he's suffering from the delusions of mental illness. Trump, in spite of the truth being presented to him in "black and white" still believes the crowd at his inauguration was larger than Obama's. Trump still believes he had one of the largest electoral college wins ever. Trump still believes that Muslims are terrorists. Trump still believes Mexicans are rapist and murders. Trump still believes that our visa processes are inadequate and is allowing people that can be identified as terrorists into the United States.

Why isn't the "liberal media" reporting that the citizens from the "travel ban" countries are not an identified terrorist threat and calling Donald Trump a liar for claiming they are. Even his own Department of Homeland security has stated that "citizenship is an 'unlikely indicator' of whether an individual poses a terror threat to the US." and that people from these countries have never represented a significant terrorist threat to the United States. Why isn't the "liberal media" reporting that the basis Trump used, the Visa Waiver Program, didn't identify people from these countries as being a threat but instead identified foreigners that go to these countries as being a potential threat to national security. Why aren't the "liberal Media" headlines proclaiming our visa processes for the travel ban countries are exceptionally good and have prevented any identifiable terrorist from being granted a visa for the last 15 years. Why isn't the "liberal media" pointing out that the law that allows the President to impose the restrictions also imposes the requirement that it must be based upon undisputed evidence of a threat, not an opinion of the president, and that evidence simply doesn't exist?

Why is the "liberal media" giving any creditability to any of the claims made by Trump and his administration on his (Muslim) travel bans? Why don't the headlines simply read, "Trump lies about his Muslim Travel Ban" because that's exactly what we've seen. Dozens of opportunities for the Trump administration to provide it's evidence that a danger exists and not even a remote thread of any evidence has been presented. It hasn't been presented because it doesn't exist.

Why aren't there headlines on Trump's serious mental illness that causes him to live in a world of delusion? Why aren't there headlines about how damaging to the US Trump's actions have been in the first two months?

Why aren't the "Liberal Media's" headlines stating "Trump Administration's Goal is to Destroy our Constitutional Government" because Steve Bannon has already stated that's the goal of the Trump administration.

The so-called "liberal media" couldn't be more kind to Donald Trump than it has been. It's covered up his severe mental illness, It's covered up how disastrous his actions have been and how much worse things are going to become. It doesn't explain that Trump actually believes all of the "lies" he tells because they're "true in his delusional world" and he's going to act based upon his delusions and potentially millions of people are going to die because of Trump's actions based upon delusion.

America is in the greatest danger it's ever been in, far worse than any war we've ever fought, far worse than the post-WW II cold war, and it's because we're being lead by a man that's mentally incompetent but the so-called "liberal media" hasn't been reporting that fact. That should be the headlines of every newspaper and the lead story on every news broadcast until the day Donald Trump has his presidential powers removed.
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.... polling is never going to be accurate in an election, as with so many unknown who might vote, a predictable outcome is hard to come up with.

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Polling to establish a prediction is always subject to potentially significant error.

Polling to establish an opinion currently held is not subject to that error because it records what people believe at the moment.

There is a polling mathematical error based upon sample size but there's no error related to what the people state their opinion is at the moment.

Predicting the future is far different than recording the present. This poll is a measurement of the present and not a prediction of the future.

Right now (at the time the poll was taken) 71% of the AMERICAN PEOPLE oppose the mass deportation of undocumented aliens. That is not a prediction, that is a fact. It's not about "how they will vote" but instead is a "recording of the vote" for those that responded to the poll.
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President Donald Trump's election victory came amid promises to crack down on illegal immigration, perform mass deportations and build a wall along the southern border. But as Trump has begun to implement his hard-line policies, American public opinion seems to be turning against the president.

Only 27 percent of respondents from a CNN/ORC poll released Wednesday believe that the government should attempt to deport all undocumented immigrants, while 71 percent believe the government should not be attempting that kind of mass deportation. What's striking about these responses is how they have trended toward acceptance of undocumented immigrants in recent years.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/acceptanc...124002872.html

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Wow, the push poll is popping up. Do you favor Gestapo like mass deportation of hard working, law abiding undocumented immigrants? Yes or no.
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