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All true yet it doesn't change a bit of what Senior stated... With Russia one doesn't wait till later to try and do what is right IMHO.

And I am just saying what needs saying. I am not putting the Trump down, he is to good at doing that himself.

Waiting means 2 times or more the costs in all areas if not war. ... And he thinks doing health care is hard work. The job he has requires a lot more of him that he ever considered. Just saying what needs saying.
Why do we have to do anything "later?"

You speak as though we have some obligation to go to war with Russia over the Ukraine.

We don't.

As pleasant as it would be for us to do so, as nice as it would be to stick it to Putin, why do we have to place American youth and Treasure in harm's way for people just because someone is oppressing them?

Trump didn't want us in Iraq or Afghanistan. Why would he then pursue a bellicose action over the Ukraine?
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Please show me where I suggest we need to go to war with Russia. My point was a hint that Trump in rushing to do as you suggested to settle thing after he took care of things here at home, he would deal with the Russians later. And in that RUSH he might again blow it.

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All true yet it doesn't change a bit of what Senior stated... With Russia one doesn't wait till later to try and do what is right IMHO.

And I am just saying what needs saying. I am not putting the Trump down, he is to good at doing that himself.

Waiting means 2 times or more the costs in all areas if not war. ... And he thinks doing health care is hard work. The job he has requires a lot more of him that he ever considered. Just saying what needs saying.
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Why do we have to do anything "later?"

You speak as though we have some obligation to go to war with Russia over the Ukraine.

We don't. Your suggestion not mine..

As pleasant as it would be for us to do so, as nice as it would be to stick it to Putin, why do we have to place American youth and Treasure in harm's way for people just because someone is oppressing them?

Trump didn't want us in Iraq or Afghanistan. Why would he then pursue a bellicose action over the Ukraine?
Look I was following up on what you said. And in a totally different area. If you care to address those thought then fine.

What trump does in a rush seems to always fail which is what I was suggesting in dealing with Russia later.

Man you few try so damn hard to make me out a clown.. One day you might get better at it. Till then go practice on the bath room walls.
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Please show me where I suggest we need to go to war with Russia. My point was a hint that Trump in rushing to do as you suggested to settle thing after he took care of things here at home, he would deal with the Russians later. And in that RUSH he might again blow it.





Look I was following up on what you said. And in a totally different area. If you care to address those thought then fine.

What trump does in a rush seems to always fail which is what I was suggesting in dealing with Russia later.

Man you few try so damn hard to make me out a clown.. One day you might get better at it. Till then go practice on the bath room walls.
If it is a discussion then any and all relevant ideas should be brought to the table for review. With the possible exception of yourself, nobody is making you a clown.
That said, short of Sabre rattling and a USA led military presence in the Ukraine, how would we "help" the situation and keep the Russians at bay?
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Why is the Russia Ukraine situation any concern of the USA? :
read history; pay close attention to nationalist fads when we did nothing for almost too long.
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read history; pay close attention to nationalist fads when we did nothing for almost too long.
So, are you promoting war with Russia? If not, what are you trying to say?
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read history; pay close attention to nationalist fads when we did nothing for almost too long.
The left always cries "we have to help" and then passes blame when the American bodies come home.
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If it is a discussion then any and all relevant ideas should be brought to the table for review. With the possible exception of yourself, nobody is making you a clown.
That said, short of Sabre rattling and a USA led military presence in the Ukraine, how would we "help" the situation and keep the Russians at bay?
And if it is relevant then don't take what I say out of context.. As it is right there in print. How can I discuss what I never said?
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Why is the Russia Ukraine situation any concern of the USA? :
err We kind of lead NATO as we claim to be the #1 in everything... And we once did come to other countries aid and defense..

Till Obama... And now Trump. Is the answer to the question. I do prefer we don't get involve, myself...

Hell we ought to not bother anyone over anything. And in the end we with the rest of the world we go down the same drain glowing in the dark..

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err We kind of lead NATO as we claim to be the #1 in everything... And we once did come to other countries aid and defense..

Till Obama... And now Trump. Is the answer to the question. I do prefer we don't get involve, myself...

Hell we ought to not bother anyone over anything. And in the end we with the rest of the world we go down the same drain glowing in the dark..

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That's a lot of rambling without saying much. Is Ukraine a NATO member?
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That's a lot of rambling without saying much. Is Ukraine a NATO member?
Rambling... And it said everything. Tell Base was the Nam a NATO member?
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