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The Obama Administration is continuing its war on conservative groups. Seemingly not satisfied with the IRS targeting Tea Party and conservative groups for harassment, the Obama Administration’s Defense Department is now training personnel to recognize conservative groups as “hate groups.”

On Friday, Judicial Watch reported that new Defense Department training materials for the military are labeling conservative groups as “hate groups” and warning personnel to identify conservative groups as extremists for the purpose of profiling them as potential terrorists.

The materials being used by the Air Force to identify potential terrorists claims that the purpose of the materials is to help students “recognize extremists ideologies.”

The training materials warns that “hate groups” will often speak of civil liberties, states’ rights or how to make the world a better place.

The document states, “Nowadays, instead of dressing in sheets or publically espousing hate messages, many extremists will talk of individual liberties, states’ rights, and how to make the world a better place.”

For those who may be unclear as to what an “extremist movement” is, the training materials provides historical examples, including the American colonists’ war of independence.

“In U.S. history, there are many examples of extremist ideologies and movements. The colonists who sought to free themselves from British rule and the Confederate states who sought to secede from the Northern states are just two examples.”

The 9/11 terrorist attack was not offered as an example of extremism, but categorized under “historical events.” Other than the mention of 9/11 and a mention of the Sudan, there is no mention of Islamic extremism.

The Defense Department also cites the fanatical leftwing Southern Poverty Law Center as a resource to learn who is, and is not, an extremist.

After so broadly defining extremism as a function of those who dare to preach the value of civil liberties, the Defense Department also reminded, “Individuals who hold extremist views are in conflict with the standards expected of all military members, and participation in extremism is inconsistent with the duties of military service.”

Also, the Defense Department warned that military personnel were prohibited from participating with what they consider to be “extremist” organizations. This includes publicly demonstrating or rallying, fundraising, recruiting and training members and organizing or leading such organizations.

“The Obama administration has a nasty habit of equating basic conservative values with terrorism. And now, in a document full of claptrap, its Defense Department suggests that the Founding Fathers, and many conservative Americans, would not be welcome in today’s military,” said Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton. “And it is striking that some the language in this new document echoes the IRS targeting language of conservative and Tea Party investigations. After reviewing this document, one can’t help but worry for the future and morale of our nation’s armed forces.”

The Obama Administration’s Defense Department is so narrowly tailoring what is considered an “extremist ideology” that such a term is coming to mean “anyone who disagrees with the Obama Administration’s agenda.” It is truly disheartening an terrifying to see conservative ideas being so willfully targeted through propaganda and governmental harassment.
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"The colonists who sought to free themselves from British rule" You see folks, the obama administration thinks are founding fathers were an extremist terrorist organization. Unfrigginbelievable, that this man ever got into office with these beliefs.
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"The colonists who sought to free themselves from British rule" You see folks, the obama administration thinks are founding fathers were an extremist terrorist organization. Unfrigginbelievable, that this man ever got into office with these beliefs.
Do we have a copy of the document?

I mean really...
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Do we have a copy of the document?

I mean really...
http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-cont...1-docs.pdf?V=1

Judicial Watch Obtains Defense Department Teaching Documents Suggests ?Extremists? to Mainstream Conservative Views | Judicial Watch

Judicial Watch: Defense Department Teaching Documents Suggest Mainstream Conservative Views ?Extremist? | Judicial Watch
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So I'm reading this information and it's not really as presented by the OP.
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So I'm reading this information and it's not really as presented by the OP.
Page 43........

Extremist Ideologies........

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As noted, an ideology is a set of political beliefs about the nature of people and
society.
People who are committed to an ideology seek not only to persuade but to
recruit others to their belief.
In U.S. history,
there are many examples of extremist
ideologies and movements. The colonists who sought to free themselves from British
rule and the Confederate states who sought to secede from the N
orthern states are just
two examples
Page 45............

Recruiting Motives..................

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Nowadays, instead of dressing in sheets or publicly espousing hate messages, many
extremists will talk of individual liberties, states’ rights, and how to
make the world a
better place
Doesn't get any clearer than that. Anyone who speaks out against obama is considered an extremist if they believe in states rights and individual liberties.

My God how much more do you need to see the writing on the wall?
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Extremist Ideologies........



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Doesn't get any clearer than that. Anyone who speaks out against obama is considered an extremist if they believe in states rights and individual liberties.

My God how much more do you need to see the writing on the wall?
Considering that you're getting into 45 pages in to get to what you're talking about... that's kinda an issue...

Additionally, I don't think anyone in their right might could objectively say that the Founding Fathers weren't extremists...
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Considering that you're getting into 45 pages in to get to what you're talking about... that's kinda an issue...

Additionally, I don't think anyone in their right might could objectively say that the Founding Fathers weren't extremists...
As with most government documents there is a lot of excess and needless redundancy in their format. Many pages are just duplicates of previous pages.

And yet the defense dept. says exactly that.
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As with most government documents there is a lot of excess and needless redundancy in their format. Many pages are just duplicates of previous pages.

And yet the defense dept. says exactly that.
Actually the DoD says they were extremists. And so do I. And so does anyone who reads history...
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http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-cont...1-docs.pdf?V=1

From the Document..

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This lesson was designed to increase the student’s understanding of extremist groups and organizations, enhancing their knowledge, thus preparing them as EOAs to deal with extremist identification and issues.
I read the entire Document and not once did they single out Conservative Groups as Extremists. Although I have to admit as I was reading through the list of Extremists tendencies I did feel a strong sense of Déjà vu from my dealings with certain members here.........
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Actually the DoD says they were extremists. And so do I. And so does anyone who reads history...
I misread your answer there, for a moment there I thought you had agreed with me.

Well, then, I guess all Americans who honor our founding, and the men and women who fought and died for freedom and liberty are then extremists. ****, why not just shoot the whole ****ing lot of us now!
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