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Old 03-13-2013, 01:45 PM
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The Obama administration is drawing up plans to give all U.S. spy agencies full access to a massive database that contains financial data on American citizens and others who bank in the country, according to a Treasury Department document seen by Reuters.

The proposed plan represents a major step by U.S. intelligence agencies to spot and track down terrorist networks and crime syndicates by bringing together financial databanks, criminal records and military intelligence. The plan, which legal experts say is permissible under U.S. law, is nonetheless likely to trigger intense criticism from privacy advocates.

Financial institutions that operate in the United States are required by law to file reports of "suspicious customer activity," such as large money transfers or unusually structured bank accounts, to Treasury's Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN).

The Federal Bureau of Investigation already has full access to the database. However, intelligence agencies, such as the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency, currently have to make case-by-case requests for information to FinCEN.
U.S. to let spy agencies examine Americans' finances - chicagotribune.com

Tell me again how we are not losing freedom and liberty under obama?
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Obama's a man of transparency...YOURS...Not his...
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knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas

I think this says it all. President Obama can't have transparency because it will ruin his agenda.
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U.S. to let spy agencies examine Americans' finances - chicagotribune.com

Tell me again how we are not losing freedom and liberty under obama?
All this, while it's Known that the big banks are laundering billions in drug money but they get away with amounts to a speeding ticket. While the black kid on the corner goes to jail over a ziplock bag full of pot.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2EkFhMaH8

FBI and CIA whistle blowers have TOLD and shown the intell agencies where the money is coming from but the state dept or executive branch has often told the investigators to back off becuase the person or group has protection or is part of a country we want to deal with -coughSaudiarabia-cough-.

this is nothing but more excuses to tame and control the public while good intel officers are handcuffed to fight real terrorist backers and gagged so they can't expose some powerful traitors in our own government.

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I'd say it's time for Obama to trade up, and either take a dump or get off the pot. He really does suck a royal camel's hemorrhoids when it comes to being the president.
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I'd say it's time for Obama to trade up, and either take a dump or get off the pot. He really does suck a royal camel's hemorrhoids when it comes to being the president.
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I guess you have never read the Patriot Act before Obama got in office. Why would he be different than any other president in history that when they come to office don't expand on the powers they where given. If you know of one please list just one that didn't. GW gave us the Patriot Act not Obama so he is using it to its fullest. Now I'm not defending it but you the American people allowed your representatives in both houses of the Congress to give away your rights. Now you have to live with it unless you want to take it to court and hopefully you have enough to fight it in both money and time. Oh and the fact is it has already be held constitutional by the group Bush appointed to the SCOTUS.
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I guess you have never read the Patriot Act before Obama got in office. Why would he be different than any other president in history that when they come to office don't expand on the powers they where given. If you know of one please list just one that didn't. GW gave us the Patriot Act not Obama so he is using it to its fullest. Now I'm not defending it but you the American people allowed your representatives in both houses of the Congress to give away your rights. Now you have to live with it unless you want to take it to court and hopefully you have enough to fight it in both money and time. Oh and the fact is it has already be held constitutional by the group Bush appointed to the SCOTUS.
I protested the Patriot Act, I protested the TSA, and the Dept. of Homeland Security. I protested the congress who past this abortion, and I protested the president who signed this piece of crap. So now I'm going to protest obama for furthering the erosion of our rights, thank you very much.
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I protested the Patriot Act, I protested the TSA, and the Dept. of Homeland Security. I protested the congress who past this abortion, and I protested the president who signed this piece of crap. So now I'm going to protest obama for furthering the erosion of our rights, thank you very much.
Good but he will use the powers he has that is a simple fact so get used to it. Fact is your rights are an illusion to begin with as you have a SCOTUS that says what your rights are and aren't and depending on the political winds of the time is what you get.
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Good but he will use the powers he has that is a simple fact so get used to it. Fact is your rights are an illusion to begin with as you have a SCOTUS that says what your rights are and aren't and depending on the political winds of the time is what you get.
And, I'll protest them too when they get it so friggin wrong.
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