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Old 10-17-2012, 06:22 PM
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I wish you guys on the right would promote some real good republicans instead of always promoting bomb throwers like West. He is in the same over the top rhetorical mold as most of your icons. From Rush to West. You run all the serious statesmen out of politics.
I agree....

Alan West is is wingnut talking head these days.....

He's less electable than Newt and that's saying something.....
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Since when is the repub led house predominantly black? She wasn't saying a black person went off the plantation like FS said in his literal claim that lefties are racist.
OTP, I never said that he went "off the plantation", I said that was the attitude of the liberals who attack him. From my perpsective, he's never been "on the plantation", but from people like YOU, the very idea that he has a mind of his own and that he doesn't line up with the expected norm of black people places him clearly "off the plantation". YOU and those like you are the plantation owners, complaining about the fact that there's someone whom they expect to line up with their expectations and isn't. If the term offends, too bad. It's an accurate description that perfectly encompasses the liberal mindset towards any black person who isn't a liberal.
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OTP, I never said that he went "off the plantation", I said that was the attitude of the liberals who attack him. From my perpsective, he's never been "on the plantation", but from people like YOU, the very idea that he has a mind of his own and that he doesn't line up with the expected norm of black people places him clearly "off the plantation". YOU and those like you are the plantation owners, complaining about the fact that there's someone whom they expect to line up with their expectations and isn't. If the term offends, too bad. It's an accurate description that perfectly encompasses the liberal mindset towards any black person who isn't a liberal.
Unlike you, I actually read posts that I reply to, so I know what you said.

You used a racist phrase to call liberals (specifically including me in this post) racist.

I don't give a rat's azz what he looks like, but you broad brushed the left as racists with your racist phrase.

And I do find the phrase...and YOU...very offensive.
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Unlike you, I actually read posts that I reply to, so I know what you said.

You used a racist phrase to call liberals (specifically including me in this post) racist.

I don't give a rat's azz what he looks like, but you broad brushed the left as racists with your racist phrase.

And I do find the phrase...and YOU...very offensive.
The truth often offends, but that doesn't stop it from being the truth. There is a VERY widespread attitude among liberals that blacks and women are supposed to liberals and when one of those two groups is a conservative and successful at it, they attack with a viciousness that is truly amazing to me. It is VERY similar to the attitude of Southern slaveholders towards blacks who weren't "on the plantation". They saw free blacks as a threat to their way of life and if one was caught running away, the punishment was VASTLY worse than the punishment for any other offence. Their pespective shows incredible parallels in modern liberals attitude towards groups that they beleive should be part of them. The incredible hatred towards people like Clarence Thomas, Allan West, Sarah Palin, Condi Rice, etc. is truly amazing in it's intensity and the common thread among all of them is the fact that they all are parts of the two groups that most liberals think should be supporting them.
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The truth often offends, but that doesn't stop it from being the truth. There is a VERY widespread attitude among liberals that blacks and women are supposed to liberals and when one of those two groups is a conservative and successful at it, they attack with a viciousness that is truly amazing to me. It is VERY similar to the attitude of Southern slaveholders towards blacks who weren't "on the plantation". They saw free blacks as a threat to their way of life and if one was caught running away, the punishment was VASTLY worse than the punishment for any other offence. Their pespective shows incredible parallels in modern liberals attitude towards groups that they beleive should be part of them. The incredible hatred towards people like Clarence Thomas, Allan West, Sarah Palin, Condi Rice, etc. is truly amazing in it's intensity and the common thread among all of them is the fact that they all are parts of the two groups that most liberals think should be supporting them.
The truth is that you broad brushed the left, to include me (in all caps) as racist by using a racist phrase.
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The truth is that you broad brushed the left, to include me (in all caps) as racist by using a racist phrase.
I went back and re-read my post and I have to apologize for the broadbrushing. My intent was to point out a widespread trend among liberals to attack anyone that see as a threat to the homogenous groups that many on the left see as "theirs", it wasn't to pigeonhole all liberals, just a large, very vocal and unopposed (by the rest of "the left") portion of them. If you'd care to prove me wrong, all you have to do is show me where there's been any substantial group of liberals that has stood up and denounced the kneejerk attacks on those blacks and women who aren't liberals, but instead are strong, outspoken conservatives.
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I went back and re-read my post and I have to apologize for the broadbrushing. My intent was to point out a widespread trend among liberals to attack anyone that see as a threat to the homogenous groups that many on the left see as "theirs", it wasn't to pigeonhole all liberals, just a large, very vocal and unopposed (by the rest of "the left") portion of them. If you'd care to prove me wrong, all you have to do is show me where there's been any substantial group of liberals that has stood up and denounced the kneejerk attacks on those blacks and women who aren't liberals, but instead are strong, outspoken conservatives.
Thank you for rereading. There is "stupid" on both sides, there is no doubt.

In your attempt to paint the left as racist by using a racist phrase, you specifically mentioned me as a plantation owner (as if I am racist). Please back up that assertion.
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If we can get back to the original contention, the point being made was that women and minorities are considered evil if they don't adhere to the Democratic Party's platform and they get attacked viciously as traitors...

"I can't believe he's a Republican...he's Jewish, so he's supposed to be a Democrat!...He's fighting AGAINST what Jews want."

"I can't believe he's a Republican...he's black, so he's supposed to be a Democrat!...He's fighting AGAINST what blacks want."

"I can't believe he's a Republican...he's Latino, so he's supposed to be a Democrat!...He's fighting AGAINST what Latinos want."

"I can't believe she's a Republican...she's a woman, so she's supposed to be a Democrat!...She's fighting AGAINST what women want."


It's abhorring individualism, and all MUST think collectively...
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If we can get back to the original contention, the point being made was that women and minorities are considered evil if they don't adhere to the Democratic Party's platform and they get attacked viciously as traitors...

"I can't believe he's a Republican...he's Jewish, so he's supposed to be a Democrat!...He's fighting AGAINST what Jews want."

"I can't believe he's a Republican...he's black, so he's supposed to be a Democrat!...He's fighting AGAINST what blacks want."

"I can't believe he's a Republican...he's Latino, so he's supposed to be a Democrat!...He's fighting AGAINST what Latinos want."

"I can't believe she's a Republican...she's a woman, so she's supposed to be a Democrat!...She's fighting AGAINST what women want."


It's abhorring individualism, and all MUST think collectively...
I don't care if the guy was multicolored with stripes he is a waste of space. Just as Maxine Waters is a waste of space IMHO.
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He certainly would be better that the current SoS. Hillary Clinton hasn't set the bar very high.
I would like to see him as Sec. Of Defense and
John Bolton as Sec of state
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