Exactly. And even more, what their record in office shows. I have yet to see this alleged massive Socialist-Marxist Obamatron takeover.

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No one took him out of context, sorry. and when he ran for office in 2007 he even admitted it again to joe the plumber. whether he said it in 1997 or 10 years later he still believed in redistribution of wealth. spin it anyway you want it is what he believes and now we have two candidates that are going to have to talk about the economy and the two differing versions of how to fix it.

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I have a new drinking game for all. Every time someone says the words, "out of context," you knock back a shot of your choice.

Seriously, everyone needs to stop with this "out of context" bologna. Seems every five seconds that excuse gets slung around.

Sometimes your guy says something stupid. It happens. Does not mean you need to rush to his rescue each time and hurl this lame defense around.

It has actually come to the point where if Obama says something ridiculous, you can safely bet your life fortune and savings that someone will burst into the thread at some point screaming about context.

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Nope. I totally disagree - when you take words out of context you can totally change the meaning. That is exactly what happened with the Shirley Sherrod video or Romney's "I like to fire people" quote - and when it's done, people should be called on it.

Yes, sometimes someone just plain says something stupid - I agree, but that doesn't mean you can willy nilly ignore context. Context matters because meaning matters - otherwise, it's nothing more than an agenda-serving distortion and more to the point - it's a logical fallacy every bit as bad as the "You too" fallacy.

The practice of quoting out of context, sometimes referred to as "contextomy" or "quote mining", is a logical fallacy and a type of false attribution in which a passage is removed from its surrounding matter in such a way as to distort its intended meaning.[1]

For example (from same source):

In the 2000 United States Republican primary campaign, George W. Bush's campaign screened advertising including a "warning" from John McCain's "conservative hometown paper" that "It's time the rest of the nation learns about the McCain we know." The paper (The Arizona Republic), however, went on to say, "There is much there to admire. After all, we have supported McCain in his past runs for office."[24]

In the OP's example, we have a snippet (1:36) of a much longer piece given to a specific audience where a topic was under discussion. What was the topic? What was the purpose of discussion? Where is the rest of it? Don't you want to know? Once you have that you can better evaluate the message don't you think? I couldn't find the entire tape nor could I find a transcript. Where is it?

You and I have personally butted heads on context over Obama's "you didn't build that" statement. We came to totally different conclusions on it's meaning. That's fine - I can respect that and know we will not come to agreement on it.




(anyway....you're just trying to get me drunk aren't you?)

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Hmmmm...What was Romney saying 14 years ago?

"I support a woman's right to choose."

"I am more liberal than Teddy Kennedy."

"I support gun control legislation."

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"Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace." ~Siddhartha Gautama (The Buddha)

But since then, Romney has denounced his previous beliefs, whereas Obama has done nothing but reinforce his...

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Our tax system, any tax system, enforces the idea of wealth redistribution.

I'm in favor of tax dollars being distributed to the government, and then redistributed to defense/health care/Social Security/Pell grants/students loans/whatever. Mitt Romney want to increase military spending, he certainly wants more redistribution to at least one gigantic government program lol.

This so-called "gotcha" moment on the president is nothing more than a failed attempt at a deflection away from Romney's "47%" comments. And no, redistribution of wealth is not socialism, otherwise every nation on Earth with a budget and system of taxation is socialist, even when Reagan was alive.

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Given that Romney's words seem to change with the political winds, that's probably prudent.

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