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Since you want to bring Pres. Bush into this discussion and call him "Mr. Vacation", answer the question as to why he made it to these meetings and Pres. Obama hasn't. If the President isn't at the WH, then where is he and why isn't he doing the job he was elected to do??
Hell I don't know.. and neither do you. The point is that some right wing whacko writes a OP claiming to know every detail of the Presidents day to day and you just believe it because you just love to see Obama taken down a notch. He gets his briefing.. I'm sure if he has questions or concerns he knows exactly who to contact......


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FYI - Pres. Bush used his ranch in Texas as a kind of "Western White House". The idiotic accusations of him being on "vacation" are based on the time he spent at Prairie Chapel where he was carrying out the duties of the office. The fact that he almost never missed these DAILY intelligence briefings is proof of that. But, once again, I'm giving you facts and that's pretty much a waste of time. Let me retrun to using the kind of language you seem to prefer -
First you don't know this either. All you know is that some guy who once worked for W. says he always made these meetings.. which if you were to apply a little thought to it would be clearly not true. That's saying that Bush didn't travel .. and we know he did a lot of Traveling. Sorry, but not even your hero gets a free pass...

Or it might have been that Bush was so stupid he had to have someone actually explain the briefing to him. Like the one he got back in May of 2001 when the CIA told him point blank there was going to be an attack on America... I guess Bush missed the plot.
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Supposedly Obama reads the PDB report every day but seldom attends the briefing where questions could be asked and requests for more information given. The WH press flack claims the President is "one of the most sophisticated consumers" of intelligence on the planet. Of course passively reading a report as Obama does most days, gives no indication of comprehension or sophistication.

The President's infrequent attendence at the intelligence briefings is consistent with his failure to conduct cabinet meetings or to meet with his jobs council. The briefer will travel to the President's location but it is too much trouble for a President indifferent to the duties of his office.

But don't worry President Obama treats his domestic duties with the same indifference as he does foreign policy.
spin, spin, repeat....
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NO, you are wrong because we have had four years of obama and yet the economy is still in shambles. He refuses to meet with the opposition party or even try to make an effort to join republicans in working together.
Oh I see, So when the leaders of the Republican party get together on the first day of his Presidency and make a vow to obstruct anything this president attempts to do and then they go out and obstruct everything he attempts to do, even if it was one of their own Ideas.. Then the President gets blamed for not working with the other side. How do you work with someone who has stated they will not work with you?.... That's BullS***

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Had he been leading from the front he would have admonished Harry Ried by this time about bottling up every piece of legislation the House passed.
Harry Reid is in the same position as the President. They are faced with a bunch of Republican Assahts that should be tried for treason.

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I understand that there are people like yourself who are so party oriented that nothing obama does or doesn't do is viewed as taking the country down a road most don't want to go down.
If he was doing something to take us down the wrong path I would say so.. But the policy he is trying to implement is tried and tested and has worked in the recent past . Compare that to the direction Willard wants to go and it's a no brainer... I don't want 4 more years of Bush.

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I understand also that there are people out there that place him above Jesus Christ himself and nothing any one can do or say will change their minds.
Well I'm not religious so that isn't the case here. I don't put Obama above anyone, But I do realize what is needed to get this country back and it won't happen under more Bush policy.

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obama has made things worse for this country because he was so entrenched into reforming this country into HIS vision of what America should be that he forgot that we the people have a voice in this, and the majority think we are going down the wrong path.
So you keep saying. So far the facts don't support your claim though...
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Hell I don't know.. and neither do you. The point is that some right wing whacko writes a OP claiming to know every detail of the Presidents day to day and you just believe it because you just love to see Obama taken down a notch. He gets his briefing.. I'm sure if he has questions or concerns he knows exactly who to contact......




First you don't know this either. All you know is that some guy who once worked for W. says he always made these meetings.. which if you were to apply a little thought to it would be clearly not true. That's saying that Bush didn't travel .. and we know he did a lot of Traveling. Sorry, but not even your hero gets a free pass...

Or it might have been that Bush was so stupid he had to have someone actually explain the briefing to him. Like the one he got back in May of 2001 when the CIA told him point blank there was going to be an attack on America... I guess Bush missed the plot.
GHW Bush is no hero of mine. He's a spend-a-holic politician who did do some admirable things during his presidency, but he's far from being a hero of mine. Now if you want to talk about worship - How does Pres. Obama's butt taste??
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Attending secret muslim meetings instead?
Just because they're a bunch of Kenyans, does not automatically make them Muslims.


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The Idiot that wrote the OP is a former Speech Writer for George W. Bush . That doesn't exclude the idiot who wrote the OPINION PIECE.....

No I don't believe everything the right says because they are known liars who will say or do anything to discredit the man serving as President. It's not a cult following, And if it is a legitimate issue based on facts and not some made up conspiracy then so be it.. But it's never that simple with the extremists ... they have to create negativity where there is none.

I don't care if it was the George W. Daily News, or the Obama Chronicles if the Author of the OP is creating a conspiracy and the News Paper prints it then they are just as guilty.

Only a Moron would believe that a sitting President would intentionally ignore a daily briefing that the President Always gets. The fact that the PDB isn't a scheduled meeting in the first place seems to escape the OP. He is suggesting that the President is skipping out on some meeting that is supposed to take place at a scheduled location every single day. The PDB is a document , the President gets this EVERY DAY... if he's in town he might call a meeting in his office to go over the Document with his staff... if he's on a plane or out of Town , or in a meeting with someone else, then he gets the Briefing and reads it on his own.... So yeah.. this idiot is trying to create a conspiracy...

Sure I do, I just have a very low tolerance for utter stupidity.
Because you dont want to accept the message you want to blame the messenger.

Do you think its the habit of the Washington Post to publish baseless allegations (especially ones critical of a Democrat President)? Obviously that is the conclusion that must be drawn by your unintellectual reply.

This President is lazy. He cant be bothered with mundane things that bore him... things like the economy and unemployment. He'd rather play basketball or golf which he does far more than any president in history and thats a proven fact. Go look it up.

But the fact remains.... anytime anything negative is spoken about your Dear Leader you reflexively attack the messenger. No matter who that might be.
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This President is lazy. He cant be bothered with mundane things that bore him... things like the economy and unemployment. He'd rather play basketball or golf which he does far more than any president in history and thats a proven fact. Go look it up.
Yeah you are parroting the extremists too.. Nothing you said here has any credibility.

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But the fact remains.... anytime anything negative is spoken about your Dear Leader you reflexively attack the messenger. No matter who that might be.
You don't know what a fact is from what I've seen you simply parrot the extremists .......
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Yeah you are parroting the extremists too.. Nothing you said here has any credibility.



You don't know what a fact is from what I've seen you simply parrot the extremists .......
Extremists... like the Washington Post.

And speaking of extremists like the Post... Here's another one, Maybe you've hear of him. His name is Woodward. He and the Post brought down Nixon. But in your eyes, he's just another conservative extremist.
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In The Price of Politics, Woodward takes his readers behind the scenes of the negotiations between President Barack Obama and congressional leaders to strike a "grand bargain" that would have put the nation on a course toward fiscal responsibility. While noting there is plenty of blame to go around, in the end, Woodward believes the failure was mostly due to a failure of leadership from Obama, which has put the White House on the defensive.
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Extremists... like the Washington Post.

And speaking of extremists like the Post... Here's another one, Maybe you've hear of him. His name is Woodward. He and the Post brought down Nixon. But in your eyes, he's just another conservative extremist.
What does bringing down Nixon have to do with the price of eggs in China?. that happened over 40 years ago.. the guy could be a radical extremist Tea bagger for all you know. From what I read that's what it seems like.. Just another Opinion not based on actual facts or reality.

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