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Old 04-13-2012, 05:54 PM
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Then you have Muslim-on-Muslim violence. It seems that violence and murder, hate and persecution are inbuilt in the radical Islamists.


(Note emboldened and underlined because I am talking about the radicals, just in case anyone says I have it in for Muslims in general).
Oh hellz yeah!...

Radical Islamists loathe 95% Muslims because they're not 99.7% pure Muslims...and HEAVEN FORBID you help an infidel...That's punishable by death...
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Christians don't kill because of their religion...They kill because of retaliation and defense of being killed...

You can show me 65 stories of Christians attacking Muslims and you won't find ONE INSTANCE of anyone cutting through the crowds or blowing themselves up screaming "God is great!!!"...
I suggest you look at history first, and the conflict in Nigeria second.

If you still believe that, then I guess it's ok for Christians to kill Muslims because it's justified eh?
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It discribes Islam for the last 1500 years.
It describes Christianity too.

Religious extremism sucks - except when it's your religion, eh? Then it's ok
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Then you have Muslim-on-Muslim violence. It seems that violence and murder, hate and persecution are inbuilt in the radical Islamists.


(Note emboldened and underlined because I am talking about the radicals, just in case anyone says I have it in for Muslims in general).
That's not enough, Sho. YOu would have to say it 344 times in every post you ever make and make sure that every time you make the reference, you make it bold, red, giant size and flashing. Then MAYBE you'd have a chance of not getting a "You just hate all Muslims. What about the ones who aren't blowing things up?" response from one or two of our resident terrorist apologists.
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That's not enough, Sho. YOu would have to say it 344 times in every post you ever make and make sure that every time you make the reference, you make it bold, red, giant size and flashing. Then MAYBE you'd have a chance of not getting a "You just hate all Muslims. What about the ones who aren't blowing things up?" response from one or two of our resident terrorist apologists.
Well the thought did actually cross my mind, but even with that effort it would still be to no avail.
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It describes Christianity too.

Religious extremism sucks - except when it's your religion, eh? Then it's ok
Yet some people are intelligent and honest enough to notice the huge differences in degree as well as prevalence. Some, by the looks of it, aren't.

The worst of our Christian fundamentalists are isolated and frowned upon by other Christians, and about he worst they do is to picket funerals. Islamists, on the other hand........

Well, since you do not want to see it, you won't.
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Yet some people are intelligent and honest enough to notice the huge differences in degree as well as prevalence. Some, by the looks of it, aren't.

The worst of our Christian fundamentalists are isolated and frowned upon by other Christians, and about he worst they do is to picket funerals. Islamists, on the other hand........

Well, since you do not want to see it, you won't.
Really....you mean like the Ugandan Christians and their anti-gay legislation calling for the death penalty for homosexuals with the support of an American megachurch?

While it is a matter of degree, at this point in time - certain core things do not change when it comes to extremism in any of these religions: intolerance, willingness to kill those who's ways are sinful, and a desire to impose their brand on everyone else...not to mention a low regard for women. This comes out when again and again and again but we are fortunate that most western Christian dominated countries are largely secular and have a secular system of law. The same can not be said of Christianity in Africa.
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That's not enough, Sho. YOu would have to say it 344 times in every post you ever make and make sure that every time you make the reference, you make it bold, red, giant size and flashing. Then MAYBE you'd have a chance of not getting a "You just hate all Muslims. What about the ones who aren't blowing things up?" response from one or two of our resident terrorist apologists.
Of course. If one tries to put religious violence in context, one becomes a terrorist apologist. Kind of like accusations of anti-semitic. It's a way of shutting up alternative ideas.
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Of course. If one tries to put religious violence in context, one becomes a terrorist apologist. Kind of like accusations of anti-semitic. It's a way of shutting up alternative ideas.
No. It's the plain fact that there people here who have repeatedly accused those of us who are willing to speak out against the violent extremists of being anti-Muslim. I've been accused of this repeatedly and I have repeatedly stated that it's the extremists coupled with apathetics who are the problem. But for some reason stating that FACT makes me anti-Muslim. It's time you and the rest of the "pro-anything that anyone on the right is agaisnt" group gets clue.

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No. It's the plain fact that there people here who have repeatedly accused those of us who are willing to speak out against the violent extremists of being anti-Muslim. I've been accused of this repeatedly and I have repeatedly stated that it's the extremists coupled with apathetics who are the problem. But for some reason stating that FACT makes me anti-Muslim. It's time you and the rest of the "pro-anything that anyone on the right is agaisnt" group gets clue.
Maybe it's time you, as well, quit lumping everyone into one category? I've been labeled Anti-semetic and Anti-christian for attempting to put Islam into perspective.

You know how it is....pot, kettle, black.

You are one of the FEW here who differentiate between extremists and mainstream.
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