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Old 02-28-2012, 09:08 PM
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Here's a point of order...

Obama sent a three page letter of apology to Karzai...

And in true Obama transparency fashion, the letter has STILL not been made public...

Carney: Apology to Karzai ‘Not Appropriate’ for Reporters to See

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The White House press secretary told members of the press pool aboard Air Force One today that President Obama’s “sincere” apology to Afghan President Hamid Karzai for a Koran-burning incident “is not appropriate to show” to reporters.

Jay Carney spoke with reporters for about 20 minutes as the presidential entourage flew to Florida for a speech on energy at the University of Miami.

Obama’s letter to Karzai that included the apology was “a lengthy, three-page letter on a host of issues, several sentences of which relate to this matter,” according to the travel pool report.

“The president, following up on a telephone conversation … wrote a long letter on a variety of issues related to our bilateral engagement, including reconciliation, including the trilateral talks that we had with Pakistan last week in Islamabad,” Carney said. “He also expressed his apology for the inadvertent burning of religious materials by American personnel in Afghanistan. It is wholly appropriate given the understandable sensitivities to this issue. His primary concern as commander in chief is the safety of American men and women in Afghanistan, of our military and civilian personnel there. It’s absolutely the right thing to do.”

Carney said Karzai did not request the apology letter. Obama spoke with Karzai the day before sending the letter.
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Here's a point of order...

Obama sent a three page letter of apology to Karzai...

And in true Obama transparency fashion, the letter has STILL not been made public...

Carney: Apology to Karzai ‘Not Appropriate’ for Reporters to See
I do not have a problem with the letter being private.

If it were me, I would have said, "It is a personal letter, but if Karzai wants to release it, that is fine by me."
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I have never heard of letters to foreign leaders being made available to the general public - why should this one be?

("greater transperency" does not equal "total transperency")
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I have never heard of letters to foreign leaders being made available to the general public - why should this one be?

("greater transperency" does not equal "total transperency")
but we've gotten no transparency from this administration.
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but we've gotten no transparency from this administration.
Do you just say whatever sounds negative? What is it you wanted to know that has you so bummed out?
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but we've gotten no transparency from this administration.
That is not true either. While we haven't gotten as much as "promised" - to say none is dishonest.
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I agree 100%.
I have my own moral compass to guide me, but for those who use the Bible as their moral compass, it contains the exact advice that you just gave.
All they need to do is read it. It's quite clear on the matter.
If somebody hits you, you are to turn the other cheek so he can hit you again.
You are not to hit him back... and you are certainly not to get an Uzi and blow his head off, and then go track down his brothers and sisters, wife and children, parents and cousins, and blow all their heads off too.

Whether or not some Americans will ever accept it, middle-eastern Islamics do have reasons to be angry with America. You may not know their reasons, but they exist. You may not feel their reasons are valid, but they do. They are not fighting us because they're crazy, or because Allah says so, or because they hate us for our freedom. They are fighting us, for starters, because we are a foreign force which is occupying their country. We would do no different, in their situation.
I'm not trying to say that we need to understand and sympathize with their reasons for viewing us as enemies, if they do (some of them do; certainly not all of them). I'm saying that it would be nice if we could simply accept and acknowledge that they have reasons, even if we do not care to know what they are.
Once we accept and acknowledge that, perhaps we will think twice before taunting them and escalating the situation by destroying what is sacred to them.
Islam has hated the west way before the 20th Century!
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Islam has hated the west way before the 20th Century!

Islam exists for one reason only...to dominate the world under one religion.

Anyone who thinks if we were to leave right now and they would cease their hostility is living in a fantasy world of make believe.
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Islam has hated the west way before the 20th Century!
Explain that to the Muslims that died on the beaches of Normandy, Or the ones buried at Arlington, Or gettysburg or the ones who have fought and died to protect America. BTW what group has refused to fight and die for America. I believe they are a christian group aren't they?
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Explain that to the Muslims that died on the beaches of Normandy, Or the ones buried at Arlington, Or gettysburg or the ones who have fought and died to protect America. BTW what group has refused to fight and die for America. I believe they are a christian group aren't they?
Nitpicking again?
You know exactly what was meant!


Besides,I said Islam,not Muslims!
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