FACT CHECK: Are rich taxed less than secretaries? - Page 3

saltwn · #21 (**permalink**) 09-21-2011, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bodo

Hope your being sarcastic.

Would that I were not.

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Please cite your source

the Roman empire

AzMike · #22 (**permalink**) 09-21-2011, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

the Roman empire

You do know they don't exist any longer right? Please for the love of god tell me you know the history of the Roman Empire and why it crumbled.

Billo_Really · #23 (**permalink**) 09-21-2011, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AzMike

You do know they don't exist any longer right? Please for the love of god tell me you know the history of the Roman Empire and why it crumbled.

Why ask that question, you don't care about the truth?

Billo_Really · #24 (**permalink**) 09-21-2011, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lackluster

The key to understanding percentages when they pertain to tax rates is that the figures given only refer to taxable income. The wealthier the individual, the more they can protect their income from being taxed in the first place, and so the rates, themselves, are less important than the methods allowed for protecting income from taxation.

If the fellow who makes 50,000 a year has all of his income subject to income tax, and the fellow who makes 15 million doesn't, then it isn't really the rates that are all that meaningful, but how much of the income is actually taxed.

If there was an award for the best post in a thread, this would get my vote!

saltwn · #25 (**permalink**) 09-21-2011, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AzMike

You do know they don't exist any longer right? Please for the love of god tell me you know the history of the Roman Empire and why it crumbled.

For the love of God ?

1)Foreigners were allowed to run things so long they over ran the Empire city.
2) Laziness and gullibility in the above and fighting on too many fronts at once while there was something stinkin in Denmark (figuratively the home front)

AzMike · #26 (**permalink**) 09-22-2011, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

For the love of God ?

1)Foreigners were allowed to run things so long they over ran the Empire city.
2) Laziness and gullibility in the above and fighting on too many fronts at once while there was something stinkin in Denmark (figuratively the home front)

Nice to see you have the 3rd grade version down. Care to expand that to the reality of what happened? And draw some parellels to the USA today?

Billo_Really · #27 (**permalink**) 09-22-2011, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by AzMike

Nice to see you have the 3rd grade version down. Care to expand that to the reality of what happened? And draw some parellels to the USA today?

Here's one...

How can our military defend this country, when they're not physically in the country they're defending?

Bodo · #28 (**permalink**) 09-22-2011, 05:22 PM

Obama is doubling down with the same lie:

Obama: I'm A Class Warrior | RealClearPolitics

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"Now the Republicans, you know when I, I talked about this earlier in the week. They said 'well, this is class warfare.' You know what? If asking a billionaire to pay their fair of taxes. To pay the same tax rate as a plumber or a teacher is class warfare, then you know what? I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm a warrior for the middle class. I'm happy to fight for the middle class," President Obama said at the Brent Spence Bridge in Cincinnati, OH.

He also admits to class warfare. When will his handlers get him under control?

Mikeyy · #29 (**permalink**) 09-22-2011, 06:14 PM

What gets me is that tax rates for investments are low because people claim that these investors are taking a larger risk. Why? We all take a risk. I am a business owner. Everything I do is a risk but my tax is higher. You really want to know why investors have lower rates. Because they run the congress. God how hard was that to figure out

Billo_Really · #30 (**permalink**) 09-22-2011, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy

What gets me is that tax rates for investments are low because people claim that these investors are taking a larger risk. Why? We all take a risk. I am a business owner. Everything I do is a risk but my tax is higher. You really want to know why investors have lower rates. Because they run the congress. God how hard was that to figure out

This is where their whole argument falls apart...

Obama wants to roll taxes back to the Clinton levels of '92. If anyone remembers the 90's, those were boon times for businesses. We had 8 straight years of growth with those taxes.

The right is FOS!

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