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Old 06-21-2010, 09:18 PM
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Default Senators Challenge Pres. Obama on Rumors of Executive Order Amnesty

If Obama tries to do this, then he needs to be impeached


Several Senators have learned of a possible plan by the Obama Administration that would provide a mass Amnesty for the nation's 11-18 million illegal aliens. Led by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), eight Senators addressed a letter to the President asking for answers to questions about a plan that would allow DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano to provide an amnesty if they can't secure enough votes for a bill in the Senate.

The letter that was sent to Pres. Obama earlier today asks the President for clarification on the use of deferred action or parole for illegal aliens. The executive actions are typically used in special cases and are evaluated on a case-by-case basis, but if 60 votes can't be secured in the Senate to pass a mass Amnesty, the Administration may use the discretionary actions as an alternative.


Dear President Obama:

We understand that there’s a push for your Administration to develop a plan to unilaterally extend either deferred action or parole to millions of illegal aliens in the United States. We understand that the Administration may include aliens who have willfully overstayed their visas or filed for benefits knowing that they will not be eligible for a status for years to come. We understand that deferred action and parole are discretionary actions reserved for individual cases that present unusual, emergent or humanitarian circumstances. Deferred action and parole were not intended to be used to confer a status or offer protection to large groups of illegal aliens, even if the agency claims that they look at each case on a “case-by-case” basis.

While we agree our immigration laws need to be fixed, we are deeply concerned about the potential expansion of deferred action or parole for a large illegal alien population. While deferred action and parole are Executive Branch authorities, they should not be used to circumvent Congress’ constitutional authority to legislate immigration policy, particularly as it relates to the illegal population in the United States.

The Administration would be wise to abandon any plans for deferred action or parole for the illegal population. Such a move would further erode the American public’s confidence in the federal government and its commitment to securing the borders and enforcing the laws already on the books.

We would appreciate receiving a commitment that the Administration has no plans to use either authority to change the current position of a large group of illegal aliens already in the United States, and ask that you respond to us about this matter as soon as possible.




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I have been suspecting for a long time he'll write a blanket amnesty by EO.
What better way to get re-elected ?
Devious. Wouldn't put it past him.
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I have been suspecting for a long time he'll write a blanket amnesty by EO.
What better way to get re-elected ?
Devious. Wouldn't put it past him.
And all of those ex-illegals who couldn't get healthcare because he said so time and time again?...

They'll be in...
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Default Re: Senators Challenge Pres. Obama on Rumors of Executive Order Amnesty

No matter whose watch it's under:

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Here’s something you seldom hear in a Republican primary: a candidate taking issue with Ronald Reagan.

It happened this afternoon when former Florida House Speaker Marco Rubio, who’s running in the GOP Senate primary against Gov. Charlie Crist, answered a question on immigration at a Martin County Republican Womens Federated meeting that drew more than 100 attendees.

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“In 1986 Ronald Reagan granted amnesty to 3 million people,” Rubio said. “You know what happened, in addition to becoming 11 million a decade later? There were people trying to enter the country legally, who had done the paperwork, who were here legally, who were going through the process, who claimed, all of a sudden, ‘No, no no no , I’m illegal.’ Because it was easier to do the amnesty program than it was to do the legal process.”
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“If you grant amnesty, the message that you’re sending is that if you come in this country and stay here long enough, we will let you stay. And no one will ever come through the legal process if you do that.”
or how they go about it, the people do not want it. And we don't want it because there are legals having a hard time getting a job right now. As well as the fact we're tired of feeding the world. Time to take care of ourselves a little more.
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Is it possible that President Obama is about to circumvent the ordinary political process, and grant amnesty to illegals by executive order?

Some senators apparently think so.

And frankly, it would not surprise me.

This president has shown (in the healthcare-reform debate, for instance) that he has no regard for the wishes of most Americans; but that he feels morally entitled to override those wishes, in favor of his avant-garde vision of what America should, in his opinion, be like.

Here is a link to an article on the subject, which itself contains a link to a free fax to the president, for the purpose of objecting to this potential act of near-authoritarianism: Senators Fear President Will Grant Amnesty by Executive Order... | Before It's News
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Is it possible that President Obama is about to circumvent the ordinary political process, and grant amnesty to illegals by executive order?

Some senators apparently think so.

And frankly, it would not surprise me.

This president has shown (in the healthcare-reform debate, for instance) that he has no regard for the wishes of most Americans; but that he feels morally entitled to override those wishes, in favor of his avant-garde vision of what America should, in his opinion, be like.

Here is a link to an article on the subject, which itself contains a link to a free fax to the president, for the purpose of objecting to this potential act of near-authoritarianism: Senators Fear President Will Grant Amnesty by Executive Order... | Before It's News
If he has figured out there will be no second term for him, then he may not care if he continues to do as he wishes and disregard what the people want. If he moves forward with something like this, he will be completely showing his hand at attempting to create a dictatorship.

I don't know to what extent things like this, if they happen, can be negated or corrected.....
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Is it possible that President Obama is about to circumvent the ordinary political process, and grant amnesty to illegals by executive order?

Some senators apparently think so.

And frankly, it would not surprise me.

This president has shown (in the healthcare-reform debate, for instance) that he has no regard for the wishes of most Americans; but that he feels morally entitled to override those wishes, in favor of his avant-garde vision of what America should, in his opinion, be like.

Here is a link to an article on the subject, which itself contains a link to a free fax to the president, for the purpose of objecting to this potential act of near-authoritarianism: Senators Fear President Will Grant Amnesty by Executive Order... | Before It's News
Sorry PJ

http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/pre...r-amnesty.html
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No, I am the one who needs to apologize. I simply didn't notice the other thread, and therefore created a redundant one.

I apologize for having stepped upon your own thread, by creating a remarkably similar one of my own.
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[Moderator mode]Two similar threads merged.[/moderator mode]
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No, I am the one who needs to apologize. I simply didn't notice the other thread, and therefore created a redundant one.

I apologize for having stepped upon your own thread, by creating a remarkably similar one of my own.
Lighten up, you're making feel bad for gloating...
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