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Old 11-11-2020, 02:50 PM
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The "president-elect" is NOT the "president-elect" UNTIL the Electoral College officially votes...They have not done so yet...
Nope, that's not true. President Elect is a defined term in the Presidential Transition Act and it doesn't require any certification or electoral college vote. It simply requires that the head of the GSA determine that the person is the "apparent successful candidate." As I have noted, in every prior election since this statute went into effect, the leading candidate under comparable circumstances and timing was recognized by the GSA as President Elect (long before the electoral college vote).
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Old 11-12-2020, 12:27 AM
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Nope, that's not true. President Elect is a defined term in the Presidential Transition Act and it doesn't require any certification or electoral college vote. It simply requires that the head of the GSA determine that the person is the "apparent successful candidate." As I have noted, in every prior election since this statute went into effect, the leading candidate under comparable circumstances and timing was recognized by the GSA as President Elect (long before the electoral college vote).
Hey look!...A lie!!!...

From November 28th, 2000...21 days after the election...

GSA Denies Bush Transition Aid, Citing Legal Battle

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George W. Bush’s team tried relentlessly Monday to act like an incoming administration. The Clinton administration, which still holds the keys to the White House, tried even harder to ignore them.
The result? A collision of images that seemed strange, even by this election’s standards.

It started early Monday, when the Bush team asked for access to the taxpayer-funded transition offices that are to be used by the president-elect. The General Services Administration refused, explaining it was best to wait until the legal challenges in Florida had run their course.
So using the EXACT SAME LOGIC, the GSA should withhold until "legal challenges" have "run their course"...

But you disagree...F**k history, pretend it never happened, and this time, it's a Democrat, so it's "different"....Just as it ALWAYS is...

BTW -Read this part closely, Mister "Lawyer"...

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The GSA, the federal government’s office manager, has taken on a key role. According to the Presidential Transition Act of 1963, the GSA has the authority to “ascertain the apparent winner” of an election before allocating office space and funding. The wording was designed to allow transitions to go forward even before the electoral college meets to anoint the president-elect.
Which is what I said earlier in this thread...There is no "president-elect" until the electoral college meets to "anoint" one...
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Anyone comparing 2000 and 2020 is a fool. I said that in every prior election, under comparable circumstances, the GSA recognized the president elect. 2000 was not even remotely comparable circumstances. At this point in 2000, the election was legitimately undecided, with the results in one deciding state effectively tied, undergoing recounts. Biden has a cushion of at least three states and his smallest lead in any state is 20 times the size of George Bush's lead in Florida in 2000. Trump would need to flip three or more states and tens of thousands of votes to change the results. That is not going to happen. Biden won this election. Even Karl Rove (who so famously complained to Fox News in 2012 about calling the election too early) now admits that. It's over. Trump and his people owe it to the country to admit it and to begin the orderly transition of power.

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Anyone comparing 2000 and 2020 is a fool. I said that in every prior election, under comparable circumstances, the GSA recognized the president elect. 2000 was not even remotely comparable circumstances. At this point in 2000, the election was legitimately undecided, with the results in one deciding state effectively tied, undergoing recounts. Biden has a cushion of at least three states and his smallest lead in any state is 20 times the size of George Bush's lead in Florida in 2000. Trump would need to flip three or more states and tens of thousands of votes to change the results. That is not going to happen. Biden won this election. Even Karl Rove (who so famously complained to Fox News in 2012 about calling the election too early) now admits that. It's over. Trump and his people owe it to the country to admit it and to begin the orderly transition of power.
You forget the 1876 election, where no one was declared a winner until January 1877?
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By the way it is the CONGRESS on January 6, who counts the Electoral votes and declare a winner.

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Since the mid-20th century, on January 6 at 1:00 pm before a Joint Session of Congress, the Vice President opens the votes from each state in alphabetical order. He passes the votes to four tellers—two from the House and two from the Senate—who announce the results. House tellers include one Representative from each party and are appointed by the Speaker. At the end of the count, the Vice President then declares the name of the next President.
This procedure has been in place since 1952, yet YOU didn't know that?
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By the way it is the CONGRESS on January 6, who counts the Electoral votes and declare a winner.



This procedure has been in place since 1952, yet YOU didn't know that?
What! You mean they don't just go with the findings of the MSM?
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By the way it is the CONGRESS on January 6, who counts the Electoral votes and declare a winner.



This procedure has been in place since 1952, yet YOU didn't know that?
You have to excuse CS as he claims to be a lawyer so we really don't expect him to understand actual laws.
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You have to excuse CS as he claims to be a lawyer so we really don't expect him to understand actual laws.
If I remember right he is a San Francisco attorney. That would explain a lot.
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If I remember right he is a San Francisco attorney. That would explain a lot.
DC, not SF. Anyone pretending that this election is not over remains a lying sack of shlt, however.
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If I remember right he is a San Francisco attorney. That would explain a lot.
Really?

I thought San Francisco is supposed to be a living example of Utopia, long dominated by leftists, it is why sections of the city allow nudity in the outdoors and tolerate the poop piles as part of tolerating the little guy.

Utopia doesn't need lawyers. unless it is to enforce utopia in the first place. Nancy Pelosi is the representing leader of the charming city......
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