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Old 11-04-2018, 04:26 PM
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Should children born in the United States to parents who are not U.S. citizens be granted automatic citizenship?

Note: This is not about your feelings on how to change the situation, if you feel it should be changed. This is just about policy (either by EO, legislation, or constitutional amendment) should be adopted on the subject.

My personal answer to the question is No.
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If the children's parents are US citizens, or legal residents, yes. If their parents are illegal immigrants, temporary visitors or diplomatic persons, then no.
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Old 11-04-2018, 04:43 PM
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Should children born in the United States to parents who are not U.S. citizens be granted automatic citizenship?

Note: This is not about your feelings on how to change the situation, if you feel it should be changed. This is just about policy (either by EO, legislation, or constitutional amendment) should be adopted on the subject.

My personal answer to the question is No.
chez!

If you are born here and not to a foreign visitor or dignitary (like it says in the 14th) you are a citizen.
doesnt mean your mother or dad just you born on American soil.
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Should children born in the United States to parents who are not U.S. citizens be granted automatic citizenship?

Note: This is not about your feelings on how to change the situation, if you feel it should be changed. This is just about policy (either by EO, legislation, or constitutional amendment) should be adopted on the subject.

My personal answer to the question is No.
I agree. Citizen parents it doesn't matter where you are born. Non citizen parents it doesn't matter it matter either.
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Old 11-04-2018, 06:19 PM
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IMO if your born on U.S. soil you're an American.

It's not fair to the kids to say otherwise.
The kid may end up without a country at all.
And have NO WAY to "legally" secure citizenship anywhere.
The parents don't get a free pass though. the break up of the family may be a consequence that should be WELL advertised.

But the illegal immigrant problem has always been more of a Big Biz and Big Agra problem more than a "U.S. gov'ts been to lack at the boarders" problem.
heck i think even a few republican congressmen in in the south and the west coast have been caught with "illegals" working in their homes over the years.
I have to wonder how many illegals have worked at Mar Largo and other Trump properties including the hotels. Which in general are notorious for hiring illegals from South America and Eastern Europe even.

Bottom line, anyone born on U.S. soil is in fact a "NATURAL BORN CITIZEN" as the constitution call us.
There's no law that EXCLUDES anyone from that privilege/right. Even if the parents are here illegally or as refugees or on vacation.
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The kid may end up without a country at all.
Like that happens in every country where the mother stays put.
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I recently read an article about some Asian mothers to be who came here, specifically to have their child on American soil. I have not verified the source, but considering other groups that come here for the same purpose, I would say chances are high that it is legitimate.

That being said, while I voted no, a couple of qualifiers to that statement.

If a woman comes here legally, is here legally for at least 1 year, has proven gainful employment and supported herself (this can include a spouse, as long as no 'assistance' has been applied for while here) and becomes pregnant while here, then yes, I can see DUAL citizenship for the child.

No applies to anyone who is not here legally or is not a Citizen, become pregnant while not on US soil (other than US Citizens), has applied for any type of assistance or does not have viable employment and able to support themselves.

\Perhaps some should look at what other countries require to obtain citizenship. The US has the lowest bar of all, and that is what we should change.
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Should children born in the United States to parents who are not U.S. citizens be granted automatic citizenship?

Note: This is not about your feelings on how to change the situation, if you feel it should be changed. This is just about policy (either by EO, legislation, or constitutional amendment) should be adopted on the subject.

My personal answer to the question is No.
I really think that at least one parent should be a legal citizen for the children to have automatic citizenship. However, I can accept allowing citizenship for the children of legal immigrants if the parents choose to take that route. Congress needs to address this issue, it's not the 1700's anymore. This is exactly the type of thing our founders had in mind when they made a way to alter the Constitution.
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Old 11-06-2018, 04:49 AM
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Should children born in the United States to parents who are not U.S. citizens be granted automatic citizenship?

Note: This is not about your feelings on how to change the situation, if you feel it should be changed. This is just about policy (either by EO, legislation, or constitutional amendment) should be adopted on the subject.

My personal answer to the question is No.
The one thing a lot of people don't seem to be talking about is revoking part of the INS act of 1965 that allows for the chain migration of relatives who are not spouses or minor children. This will ensure that people come here just to pop out a instant citizen will not be able to benefit from it regardless if they come here illegally or through birth tourism.

If they are born to parents who are here on a green card then sure. Those green card holders came here legally, stayed here legally, are here permanently and are usually working their ways towards becoming citizens.VISA holders, and illegal aliens the answer is no. Coming across the border and popping out a baby shouldn't grant their kids citizenship. I think that is a good compromise.
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If the children's parents are US citizens, or legal residents, yes. If their parents are illegal immigrants, temporary visitors or diplomatic persons, then no.
Legal residents are not citizens. Why should they be allowed to vote?
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