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Poll: Most Likely Articles of Impeachment
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Grounds for impeachment can be anything that the House of Representatives decides but certainly the commission of felonies are grounds for impeachment. Trump is already implicated in election finance violations based upon Cohen's convictions on two counts related to hush money payments. This instantly provides numerous potential felony indictments for Donald Trump.
You think guilty pleas automatically implicate others?...

You think non-disclosure agreements that potentially used campaign cash is a felony?...
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Indictable crimes that currently exist unrelated to Russia.

Campaign finance violation for making hush money payments to two women to prevent their story from going public right before the election. Implicated by Michael Cohen that's already pleaded guilty to these two felonies.

Violating campaign finance contributions limits as CEO because the payments were made by the Trump Organization and not personally by the candidate, Donald Trump.

Money laundering because of the scheme to hid the source of the money by channeling it through other entities (for an illegal purpose).

Tax fraud if, as it's believed, the expenditure by the Trump Organization was listed as attorney fees that are tax deductible as opposed to campaign funding which is not deductible.

Wire fraud and bank fraud because of the use of banking institutions to transfer the money while misrepresenting the purpose of the large payments (required on all transactions above $10,000).

Abuse of Presidential Power by creating a political enemies list and then using the powers of the president as means of punishment against the identified political enemies (Nixon was cited for this exact same abuse of power related to his "political enemies" list in his impeachment articles).

Emoluments violations by profiting from foreign diplomats that stay at Trump owned properties.

Potentially it could even include RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act) charges stemming from the relationship between the Trump Organization, Donald Trump, Kushner Companies, Jared Kushner and Charles Kushner (a convicted felon).

There are perhaps another dozen or so criminal charges that could be brought against Donald Trump right this minute.

To claim there's no grounds for impeachment is like claim that the earth doesn't circle the sun.
So indict. You've had two years. Let me know when you have something.

Again Shiva, your best shot at getting rid of Trump is to defeat him at the ballot box. Perhaps that is where your focus should be.
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The poll was made today. I'm gonna check back in here periodically to remind everyone how many days it's been without a Trump impeachment, using this day as a starting point. With all the poll options surly it won't be long before the dude is impeached. I mean, how can Trump commit all these crimes and not be impeached!

We'll see how smart ShivaTD really is. Let the countdown begin....
8 days. Trump has allegedly committed all of these crimes with clear-cut evidence yet still no impeachment.

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No sentient person seriously believes that President Trump will be impeached by this Congress.

If Democrats were to take control of the House, after the November elections, then it is possible.

Even then, the Senate--which requires a supermajority of 67 votes to convict--would surely not do so.

And it might be good to remember that Bill Clinton was impeached; yet he continued to have a successful presidency.

So removing Donald Trump from office (which is not the same thing as mere impeachment) is a wet dream of Democrats and other assorted leftists.

And it is about as likely to happen as, say, an invasion from Mars is.
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The sad part of this is that Impeachment is all that the Democrats have to run on. That and raising taxes. The truly sad part is that there are a lot of them that will be elected on that platform. That illustrates just how far our education system has failed this country over the last 40-50 years.
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I think Max is the reason ball-gags were invented.

Maxine Waters goes on Trump 'impeachment' tear, vows to 'get him'

Democratic Rep. Maxine Waters escalated her rhetorical assault on President Trump over the weekend – vowing to "get him" and repeating the word "impeachment" over and over.

Waters, who took heat earlier this year for urging her supporters to confront Trump administration officials in public, told a group gathered in Los Angeles that some Democratic leaders have asked her to stop talking about impeaching Trump.

“There’s a difference in how some of our leadership talk about how we should handle all of this,” Water said. “They say, ‘Maxine, please don’t say impeachment anymore.'”


“And when they say that, I say ‘impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment.’”

In video posted by The American Mirror, Waters said she wakes up in the middle of the night and “all I can think about is I’m going to get him," in reference to Trump.

The California congresswoman, who was accepting an award from the Stonewall Young Democrats on Saturday, has been one of the most outspoken congressional Democrats calling for impeachment. While many in party leadership have shied away from those demands, Waters and her allies are emboldened by the prospect of Democrats retaking the House in the midterms and, potentially, using a majority to launch impeachment proceedings.

In June, Waters made controversial comments amid the backlash over the White House’s “zero-tolerance” immigration policy leading to family separations at the border.

“If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere,” Waters said.

The lawmaker later claimed that she wasn’t calling for protesters to actually “harm” Cabinet members.

On Saturday, Waters once again brought up the remarks from earlier in the summer and said she did not threaten Trump supporters -- but seemed to joke that she's done that before.

“It frightened a lot of people, and of course the lying president said that I had threatened all of his constituents,” Waters said. “I did not threaten his constituents, his supporters. I do that all the time, but I didn’t do it that time.”


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It is certainly an interesting "poll": It lists 10 different reasons for impeaching President Trump--10!--yet it does not list, as an alternative, the possibility that he should be commended, rather than impeached.

Impartiality is really not its strong suit...
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It is certainly an interesting "poll": It lists 10 different reasons for impeaching President Trump--10!--yet it does not list, as an alternative, the possibility that he should be commended, rather than impeached.

Impartiality is really not its strong suit...
To a Progressive, that is considered being open minded.
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The Declaration ceased to matter the instant the first shot left the barrel in the Revolutionary War.
The Declaration of Independence, in two short and concise sentences, established the most progressively liberal social, economic, and political ideology in the history of civilized nations.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."

To claim that the Declaration of Independence ceased to matter the instant the first shot was fired is to deny the ideology upon which the United States was founded.

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It is certainly an interesting "poll": It lists 10 different reasons for impeaching President Trump--10!--yet it does not list, as an alternative, the possibility that he should be commended, rather than impeached.

Impartiality is really not its strong suit...
It doesn't address climate change either. As a thread it was limited to one subject and not to every possible subject imaginable.

It can also be noted that it doesn't matter what "good deeds" a person does if they commit a crime they committed a crime. Impeachment and removal from office is about "high crimes and misdemeanors" and is not about "good deeds" that might have been done.
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