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Old 12-06-2017, 12:09 PM
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Note: Obviously speaking for the euphemism.
Who here actually feels there is a "War on Christmas"...
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I don't believe it is a war on Christmas. But a war on Christian religion and the White European culture it created and upon which our early American culture was based.
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I don't believe it is a war on Christmas. But a war on Christian religion and the White European culture it created and upon which our early American culture was based.
This is kind of amusing because "War on Christmas" appears to be the ultimate focal claim of the claim of "war on Christian religion".

So it's kind of like trying to insist al Qaeda's efforts against the U.S. are real, but you don't believe al Qaeda was behind 9/11 ...
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Default Re: Do you think the "War on Christmas" is real?

Not enough nuanced options in the poll.
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This is kind of amusing because "War on Christmas" appears to be the ultimate focal claim of the claim of "war on Christian religion".

So it's kind of like trying to insist al Qaeda's efforts against the U.S. are real, but you don't believe al Qaeda was behind 9/11 ...

Another brilliantly bemusing non sequitur.
No I don't believe that...;Why do you insist on telling me what I believe so you can make an argument from it?

Actually, it is more like claiming concerns about radical Islam means one is against all Muslims. I believe 9/11 was real, it was done by radical Muslims but I don't believe all if Islam was responsible for it.


My point is that it is not about Christmas but Christendom. Of course what is totally missed by them is that Christmas is not the main celebration of Christianity. Most Christians consider the less commercialized week of Easter to be far more important to their faith.
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Another brilliantly bemusing non sequitur.
No I don't believe that...;Why do you insist on telling me what I believe so you can make an argument from it?

Actually, it is more like claiming concerns about radical Islam means one is against all Muslims. I believe 9/11 was real, it was done by radical Muslims but I don't believe all if Islam was responsible for it.


My point is that it is not about Christmas but Christendom. Of course what is totally missed by them is that Christmas is not the main celebration of Christianity. Most Christians consider the less commercialized week of Easter to be far more important to their faith.
I agree also. Not all Muslims are fanatical terrorists. As to the "war" on Christmas, the question stinks, but I answered it nevertheless. On a second note to the first, I will say that I look at all Muslims the way I look at Scientologists.

As for Easter, I smell long, boring stories about Ishtar and other "pagan" myths rearing their heads here. I hope I'm wrong.
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Not enough nuanced options in the poll.
It's a yes or no question.
Simple as that.

I don't know if you know this, but you have the capability to comment in the thread and explain what you want to answer.
Or maybe you do know that and just don't have anything meaningful to add so you just throw out a weak retort...

If you have something intelligent to add, I can add an option to the poll.
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Another brilliantly bemusing non sequitur.
That word doesn't mean what you think it does.


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No I don't believe that...;Why do you insist on telling me what I believe so you can make an argument from it?
There are so many people in glass houses for you to throw rocks on that claim...
And without surprise, instead of explaining how the actual analogy is flawed, you completely rewrite the entire thing and ignore the context.


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Actually, it is more like claiming concerns about radical Islam means one is against all Muslims. I believe 9/11 was real, it was done by radical Muslims but I don't believe all if Islam was responsible for it.
It's an analogy Franc.
I'm not saying you have that position at all. I'm trying to compare what you are saying to a similar topic to show the type of thought process you are putting out there.

Your rewrite above has no intelligible comparison to the actual original situation.


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My point is that it is not about Christmas but Christendom. Of course what is totally missed by them is that Christmas is not the main celebration of Christianity. Most Christians consider the less commercialized week of Easter to be far more important to their faith.
And here you are in your glass house!

Remember what you said at the start of this thread?
Why do you insist on telling me what I believe so you can make an argument from it?
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST DID...
Do you get that?

It is NOT about "Christendom".
It's about separation of church and state.
And the "Happy Holidays" thing has been explained so many times and ignored so many times it isn't even funny. The below analogy is one of the best on the issue...
NOBODY WANTS TO ADDRESS THAT COMPARISON.
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Note: Obviously speaking for the euphemism.
Who here actually feels there is a "War on Christmas"...
How do you define "war on Christmas"?

Is one person or a small group rallying to remove Christmas displays from public spaces a war?
Is the lady I saw the other day yelling at the Salvation Army bucket guy because he said "Merry Christmas" waging a war?
Was the ACLU (not a small organization) waging war when they sued an Indiana County to remove a nativity scene from the courthouse lawn?
Are all of these smaller incidents battles in a larger war?

Your question is to vague.
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How do you define "war on Christmas"?
This is a cheesy cop-out question.
Quite frankly, I already acknowledged it was a "euphemism".
People answering the poll should be responsible for their own standards / opinions justifying their classifications...


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Is one person or a small group rallying to remove Christmas displays from public spaces a war?
Is the lady I saw the other day yelling at the Salvation Army bucket guy because he said "Merry Christmas" waging a war?
Was the ACLU (not a small organization) waging war when they sued an Indiana County to remove a nativity scene from the courthouse lawn?
Are all of these smaller incidents battles in a larger war?
Your question is to vague.
Once again, I am amused at how some people focus such concern.

It's funny how you say my "question" is too vague.
I'm not the one who created these claims.
Do you ever stop to ask the right-wingers who claim it is happening to justify their definition of "war on Christmas" for their claim that it's happening?
There's another thread created by those who believe a war on Christmas exists. But I don't see you in there asking them to explain their classification...
Which is ironic because that's what the people who think there isn't any such war are asking...


Realistically, I am trying to find out how many people have an opinion, based on their own understanding and interpretation, that it's real.
My personal suspicion is that there are a few loud blowhard pundits who make the claim (e.g. Bill O'Reilly was one), but it's not something generally believed by a majority.
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