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You blame the divide on others but refuse to acknowledge your part in it.
Your anger leads you to insist that things be torn down, but you don't seem to acknowledge that Trump has no plans to build anything. He has no clue how to build any sort of nation. He just attacks and bashes. There is nothing else he is capable of.

You claim the only solution is to take the country in one direction or the other.
Do you actually believe that Trump actually has any such direction?
All he's been doing is stirring up anger towards other people. He doesn't have any real direction.
No plans to build anything? How about the wall the Democrats keep whining about?

Seriously, after a campaign where Trump articulated a vision to make America Great Again through enforcing immigration laws, repeal and replace Obamacare, renegotiating bad trade deals, and returning the US to a business friendly environment, among other initiatives, the claim that he has no plan is partisan nonsense.

It just takes the tiniest bit of objective observation to see the partisan Democrat led "resistance" as the source of division in the country. Together with a massively prejudiced media they are determined to undo the last election at all costs. Fake news, phony Russia scandal, politicized intelligence agencies acting like the KGB of old, violent riots and refighting the Civil War, are all authorized in service of the lynch mob. But Trump is to blame for dividing the country.
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What was the timeline on deporting the Mexicans and building the wall? I thought that would be done by now. Oh yea, congratulations on getting Obamacare repealed so quickly. Admit it, you guys are starting to realize you were tricked. Trump is the Pres of the US simply for his own gain.
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No plans to build anything? How about the wall the Democrats keep whining about?

Seriously, after a campaign where Trump articulated a vision to make America Great Again through enforcing immigration laws, repeal and replace Obamacare, renegotiating bad trade deals, and returning the US to a business friendly environment, among other initiatives, the claim that he has no plan is partisan nonsense.

It just takes the tiniest bit of objective observation to see the partisan Democrat led "resistance" as the source of division in the country. Together with a massively prejudiced media they are determined to undo the last election at all costs. Fake news, phony Russia scandal, politicized intelligence agencies acting like the KGB of old, violent riots and refighting the Civil War, are all authorized in service of the lynch mob. But Trump is to blame for dividing the country.
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What was the timeline on deporting the Mexicans and building the wall? I thought that would be done by now. Oh yea, congratulations on getting Obamacare repealed so quickly. Admit it, you guys are starting to realize you were tricked. Trump is the Pres of the US simply for his own gain.
The claim was that Trump had no plan along with an accusation that he is responsible for dividing the country. Instead of an on point response you complain Trump hasn't achieved his planned objectives in the 8 months he has been President.

But thanks for showing that Trump does have plans and displaying the anti Trump hatred that is the source of the division in this country.
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The claim was that Trump had no plan along with an accusation that he is responsible for dividing the country. Instead of an on point response you complain Trump hasn't achieved his planned objectives in the 8 months he has been President.

But thanks for showing that Trump does have plans and displaying the anti Trump hatred that is the source of the division in this country.
No actually I was pointing out you have been duped.
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Get over it. Trump has done nothing right. He has passed nothing and his polls continue to fall. The only way you could still support this moron is if you have some tingle up your leg when you see his orangeness.
Last I knew it was Congress that passes Bills, Trump either signs them or doesn't.

Yes, I fully support President Donald J. Trump.
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No plans to build anything? How about the wall the Democrats keep whining about?
Try to pay attention to context.
We were talking about building a new governmental structure.


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Seriously, after a campaign where Trump articulated a vision to make America Great Again through enforcing immigration laws, repeal and replace Obamacare, renegotiating bad trade deals, and returning the US to a business friendly environment, among other initiatives, the claim that he has no plan is partisan nonsense.
It just takes the tiniest bit of objective observation to see the partisan Democrat led "resistance" as the source of division in the country. Together with a massively prejudiced media they are determined to undo the last election at all costs. Fake news, phony Russia scandal, politicized intelligence agencies acting like the KGB of old, violent riots and refighting the Civil War, are all authorized in service of the lynch mob.
This is not about building a new governmental structure.
Again, try to pay attention to the actual context.


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But Trump is to blame for dividing the country.
He most assuredly has a high amount of blame. Yes.
And not amount of ignoring the fact and claiming "phony" will change that.


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What was the timeline on deporting the Mexicans and building the wall? I thought that would be done by now. Oh yea, congratulations on getting Obamacare repealed so quickly. Admit it, you guys are starting to realize you were tricked. Trump is the Pres of the US simply for his own gain.
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No actually I was pointing out you have been duped.
People like AZRWinger are too busy defining themselves as anti-liberal to even recognize that Trump has no definition besides being anti-liberal.

They have this delusional pretense that all it takes to "Make America Great Again" is to undo what Obama did.
I would honestly be fascinated to hear Trump's honest, uncensored thoughts on the whole matter as I don't believe he even believed he could do half the things he claimed. But he's got followers who will blindly blame liberals for Trump's failure to "build the wall" even as he has majorities in both segments of Congress...



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Last I knew it was Congress that passes Bills, Trump either signs them or doesn't.
And this will be the mantra that excuses Trump's failures as leadership...
It's everybody else but him who is to blame.

TRUMP PROMISED to get the wall built.
Not Paul Ryan.
But it's everybody else's failure when Trump doesn't do as Trump promised.
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If you get rid of the dreamers Americans will profit. Jobs will be easier to come by and at a higher wage. Dreamers will not labor like their parents did. They were raised here with our laziness.

No different than lazy white folk..

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To start with jobs are not going to wait on other lazy white folk to find them. If they look.

About the only thing you said that is true I underlined. See jobs are not fixed.

You are using the same fallacy as Sessions. And is called "The Lump of Labor."

To think in America or even the world that jobs are fixed is

Imagine if America deported every one in the country but you. Do you think you would have any job of your choice? way.

See kicking people out of the country and their jobs doesn't reallocate jobs from one person to another. It can also destroy them.

Another way to understand my point is population growth.

Supposed the number of jobs were fixed. If that were the case then unemployment would keep rising as more Americans reached adulthood..

See sense 1960 America's population has almost doubled. Yep in just 57 years it has almost doubled.

Much thanks goes to the Dems..

And the number of jobs Americans are employed at has risen each year.

See jobs don't appear from the sky. See people give people jobs, and when new arrivals appear, either by immigrating or births businesses expand to take advantage of the new labor and to sell items to the new arrivals.

Also new businesses get started, and often it is these new arrivals that start a business.

I can continue but economics 101 teaches this "the Lump of Labor" fallacy. Check it out;

Lump of labour fallacy Wikipedia:
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Whereas some argue immigrants displace domestic workers, others believe this to be a fallacy by arguing that the number of jobs in the economy is not fixed and that immigration increases the size of the economy, thus creating more jobs.[2][3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lump_of_labour_fallacy
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Who wants to be American if it means screwing kids? Not me. You miss the things that are really screwing Americans and NAFTA isn't it. Besides, Trump couldn't negotiate himself out of a wet paper bag. The fat fuq. WTF are you talking about? All of his products were from overseas. He was trying to negotiate a deal in Russia. Trump is corrupt right down to the ground. Are you a student of his university?
You have a serious anger problem, you are becoming hate filled and that's not good.


Trump can't negotiate you say? That right there shows you don't know what you're talking about. Get a clue Mikeyy, read 'The Art of the Deal".

Don't confuse Trump with Obama who couldn't even negotiate a new Status of Forces Agreement in Iraq and look at the Iran deal, what a total, humiliating failure for America that was.
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One AWESOME thing Trump has done in addition to the other Executive Orders
is he changed OBAMA'S 'RULES OF ENGAGEMENT' that got many military people and 1 Seal Team killed. Our Military is safer now.
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To start with jobs are not going to wait on other lazy white folk to find them. If they look.
About the only thing you said that is true I underlined. See jobs are not fixed.

You are using the same fallacy as Sessions. And is called "The Lump of Labor."

To think in America or even the world that jobs are fixed is

Imagine if America deported every one in the country but you. Do you think you would have any job of your choice? way.

See kicking people out of the country and their jobs doesn't reallocate jobs from one person to another. It can also destroy them.

Another way to understand my point is population growth.

Supposed the number of jobs were fixed. If that were the case then unemployment would keep rising as more Americans reached adulthood..

See sense 1960 America's population has almost doubled. Yep in just 57 years it has almost doubled.

Much thanks goes to the Dems..

And the number of jobs Americans are employed at has risen each year.

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Your post reminded me of this U-tube about Millennials.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/hLpE1P...policy=3&rel=0
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