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NEW YORK (Reuters) - A majority of Americans believe that transgender individuals should be allowed to serve in the military, according to an exclusive Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll released on Friday.

The July 26-28 poll suggested that the country largely disagrees with President Donald Trump's announcement this week that he will ban transgender personnel from the armed forces.

When asked to weigh in on the debate, 58 percent of adults agreed with the statement, "Transgender people should be allowed to serve in the military." Twenty-seven percent said they should not while the rest answered "don't know."

Democrats mostly supported military service by transgender Americans while Republicans were more evenly split.

Among Republicans, 32 percent said transgender Americans should be allowed to serve, while 49 percent said they should not. Another 19 percent of Republicans said they don't know.

The public was also divided over the impact of banning transgender service members. Some 32 percent said it would "hurt morale" in the military while 17 percent said it would "improve morale." Another 33 percent felt it would "have no impact" and the rest said they don't know.

When asked about the impact on military capabilities, 14 percent said prohibiting transgender service members made the military "more capable" while 43 percent said "no impact," 22 percent said "less capable" and the rest said they don't know.

The president's announcement, made in posts on his Twitter account, surprised many senior military officers and appeared to pre-empt an ongoing Pentagon review into its inclusion of transgender service members.

The United States' top military officer, Marine Corps. General Joseph Dunford, said the military will not alter its current policies until it receives additional guidance from Trump's secretary of defense.

Roger Kaikko, 61, a Trump voter near Cleveland, Ohio, who took the poll, said he disagrees with the president.

"Even the president shouldn’t be able to take rights away from some people just because he may not like them," Kaikko said. "They’re people too. Unless they’re causing problems, they should serve just like anybody else."

The Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll was conducted online in English across the United States. It gathered responses from 1,249 adults including 533 Democrats and 434 Republicans. It has a credibility interval, a measure of accuracy, of 3 percentage points for the entire group and 5 percentage points for Democrats and Republicans.


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A push poll with 25% more Democrats came up the expected answer. At this point the anti Trump hysterics have been whipped up to such a baseless frenzy by Democrats and their media toadies no policy he announces will be given a fair hearing.
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I would say that a poll stating that a majority of Americans have no problem with Transsexuals in the military is more of an indictment of our educational systems and entertainment industries, as much as anything else.
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I don't know what is "exclusive" about this OP. A majority of Americans have, by choice and law, come to accept everyone into our economy and society. Therefore it is no surprise that a majority of Americans support transgender. And gays, and various races, ethnicities and creeds. One is called a bigot or homophobe if they don't. And frankly these confused people truly need public support. Because they have real issues and need the community to accept them and help them deal with their issues.

But not the military.

Should we allow the blind, the fat, the short, the overly tall, diabetics, the lame,,, enter our defense forces? These conditions are human but they do not meet the requirements of the military. And while our civilian industry must make accommodations and must accept all, despite their differences from ideal, the military is an obvious and understandable exception for anyone employing responsible logic.


Question for the class. What is the difference in terms of medical needs, between a diabetic and a transgender?
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Should the military pay for cosmetic inversions and dis-inversions? Should the military provide hormones to the befogged? No.
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I would say that a poll stating that a majority of Americans have no problem with Transsexuals in the military is more of an indictment of our educational systems and entertainment industries, as much as anything else.
Translation: Anybody who doesn't agree with your opinion is stupid.
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Question for the class. What is the difference in terms of medical needs, between a diabetic and a transgender?
A diabetic goes into diabetic shock w/o insulin where as a transgender doesn't.
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A diabetic goes into diabetic shock w/o insulin where as a transgender doesn't.
I have no issue with someone serving in the military if they have not gone through physical reassignment, or, after reassignment, have passed a mental health evaluation, before duty at other than a 'desk job'.

The key being the re-adjustment period. If they are not confident in their new physical self, then they WILL be distracted, and could pose a problem for their fellow soldiers.

If their position is such that they have a desk type job where they do not see actual combat, then there is no issue really.
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I don't know what is "exclusive" about this OP. A majority of Americans have, by choice and law, come to accept everyone into our economy and society. Therefore it is no surprise that a majority of Americans support transgender. And gays, and various races, ethnicities and creeds. One is called a bigot or homophobe if they don't. And frankly these confused people truly need public support. Because they have real issues and need the community to accept them and help them deal with their issues.

But not the military.

Should we allow the blind, the fat, the short, the overly tall, diabetics, the lame,,, enter our defense forces? These conditions are human but they do not meet the requirements of the military. And while our civilian industry must make accommodations and must accept all, despite their differences from ideal, the military is an obvious and understandable exception for anyone employing responsible logic.


Question for the class. What is the difference in terms of medical needs, between a diabetic and a transgender?
You just struck upon the problem with the part I highlighted in your post. We are not talking with people that employee reasonable logic, we are dealing with liberals who by definition, abandon logic in favor of emotions. The tend to feel about things instead of thinking about things. If it feels right, it must be ok. Never mind the fallacy of their policies and the unexpected consequences of their feel good policies.
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