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Old 12-21-2016, 04:48 PM
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Assume one thing: Russia was behind the hacks on the DNC for the purpose of influencing the 2016 Presidential election outcome.
What are your feelings on that premise?
  1. Russia pursuing their self-interests is a good thing.
  2. Neutral on the situation. No opinion.
  3. Russia interfering with our presidential election is wrong.


Understandably people would have varying opinions as to whether the assumption is actually true. I'm not looking for this to devolve into that argument.
But I'm just curious on a sanity check as to what people's thoughts would be if they assumed it to be true.
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Who cares if Russia exposed how corrupt Hillary and the Democratic party are. Unless they stuffed the ballot boxes, I don't give a sh*t.
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Assume one thing: Russia was behind the hacks on the DNC for the purpose of influencing the 2016 Presidential election outcome.....Understandably people would have varying opinions as to whether the assumption is actually true. I'm not looking for this to devolve into that argument.
..I'm just curious on a sanity check as to what people's thoughts would be if they assumed it to be true.
Why?
You've already shut down a discussion, so why ask the question?
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Why?
You've already shut down a discussion, so why ask the question?
What do you mean by "shut down a discussion"?

Quite frankly, the discussion on Russia's involvement is still happening on other threads. So it's disingenuous to pretend I've shut it down...

I'm trying to preclude others from shutting down this discussion regarding whether or not this possibility even matters to them in the first place.
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Of course Russia getting involved in our elections is bad, every bit as bad as when the U.S. try's to manipulate elections in other country's and prop up puppet dictators and so forth.
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Assume one thing: Russia was behind the hacks on the DNC for the purpose of influencing the 2016 Presidential election outcome.
What are your feelings on that premise?
  1. Russia pursuing their self-interests is a good thing.
  2. Neutral on the situation. No opinion.
  3. Russia interfering with our presidential election is wrong.


Understandably people would have varying opinions as to whether the assumption is actually true. I'm not looking for this to devolve into that argument.
But I'm just curious on a sanity check as to what people's thoughts would be if they assumed it to be true.
1.Kind of hard to get mad at Russia for allegedly trying to manipulate our elections when the media was hell bent on trying to manipulate the people into voting for Clinton. Amazing how stories of all those women who claimed Trump groped them disappeared and that one woman who claimed Trump raped her when she was 13 dropped her lawsuit.

2.If hypothetically Russia hacked some emails and exposed Clinton wrongdoing. It doesn't matter because Russia didn't stuff the ballot boxes.Crying over Russians alledgedly hacking emails is nothing more than an attempt to divert attention away from Clinton wrong doing. How the evidence of wrong doing was obtained might matter in the court room, it doesn't matter in the court of public opinion.

3.Clinton won the popular vote by almost 3 million people.

4.If Russia actually did hack some emails to manipulate our elections then the CIA and FBI would have shown evidence of it to the electors and to the media.
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4.If Russia actually did hack some emails to manipulate our elections then the CIA and FBI would have shown evidence of it to the electors and to the media.
not necessarily
it's been reported their methods and more detail would tip their hand at future investigation of hacking in Russia
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not necessarily
it's been reported their methods and more detail would tip their hand at future investigation of hacking in Russia
It is possible publishing more details would expose sources and methods but it is more likely a closer examination of the evidence would show the partisan nature of the assertion the Russians are responsible or the conclusion they wanted to elect Trump or both. The CIA was confident enough to brief a Senate subcommittee and Democrats believed strongly enough to begin leaking information from the classified data immediately, but the CIA refused to brief the House committee on the grounds they hadn't completed their intelligence review.

The hallmark of the Obama administration is the corruption of the supposedly nonpartisan Federal government for partisan Democrat purposes. We have seen it with the IRS, the EPA, the DOJ, BATF, State Department and the DOJ. Yet somehow we are supposed to believe the CIA along with the alphabet soup of intelligence agencies are beyond question even immune to Congressional oversight.

Remember when the FBI recommended against filing charges against Hillary? Within days the Director appeared before Congress to explain the decision. Yet criticism of the CIA'S refusal to do the same is deemed an attack on the hard working, apolitical intelligence community.
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