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Old 12-13-2016, 04:08 PM
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didn't the president already pardon a turkey this year?
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Will the traitor be pardoned?

I'm not sure but will take a guess and say yeah, Obama will let this scumbag off the hook, especially after he had a celebration with his family in the Rose Garden. Would tarnish his legacy even further to have had that for a convicted criminal.
Can't anyone on the "right" ever be honest or live in the world of reality or is that just too difficult.

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A top Army commander on Monday ordered that Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl face a court-martial on charges of desertion and endangering troops stemming from his decision to leave his outpost in 2009.
No claims or evidence of treason and certainly nothing to substantiate a claim that Berghahl was a traitor. He can't even be called an "alleged" traitor honestly.

No, President Obama isn't going to pardon Bowe Bergdahl.

I would encourage President Obama to pardon the over 750,000 immigrants brought here as children by their parents, that have violated no US criminal laws, and that signed up for deferred prosecution under the DACA program. It would be unusual for a president to pardon someone for a civil, not criminal, offense but these individuals that have fundamentally done nothing wrong, are "low hanging fruit" of Trump wants to deport people just to deport people.
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Unless they re-wrote all the rules and laws pertaining to conduct while in uniform and or in a combat zone, what your suggesting below in bolden is crap..



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Can't anyone on the "right" ever be honest or live in the world of reality or is that just too difficult.

Just leaving his post is an act of treason... In a combat zone to do so without taking your weapon shows intent to at least be friendly with all enemies he incounters..

No claims or evidence of treason and certainly nothing to substantiate a claim that Berghahl was a traitor.

He can't even be called an "alleged" traitor honestly.
This is leftist B.S.

No, President Obama isn't going to pardon Bowe Bergdahl.

I agree only because his trial has yet to be over.

I would encourage President Obama to pardon the over 750,000 immigrants brought here as children by their parents, that have violated no US criminal laws, and that signed up for deferred prosecution under the DACA program. It would be unusual for a president to pardon someone for a civil, not criminal, offense but these individuals that have fundamentally done nothing wrong, are "low hanging fruit" of Trump wants to deport people just to deport people.
Hey you want to save the illegals then run for the damn office yourself. What is it with the left animals and immigration yet not not the poor in their own country.
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Unless they re-wrote all the rules and laws pertaining to conduct while in uniform and or in a combat zone, what your suggesting below in bolden is crap..





Hey you want to save the illegals then run for the damn office yourself. What is it with the left animals and immigration yet not not the poor in their own country.
Maybe you have the proof he is a traitor. Don't just talk about the left, give us the proof if you have it.
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Maybe you have the proof he is a traitor. Don't just talk about the left, give us the proof if you have it.
What is it with you Mikeyy as I stated above the proof in post # 23. He left his post and left his weapons behind and headed towards the enemy...

You are not going to play games with me.. Facts are facts. Unless the Military has changed the rules as I stated above..

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You should go back and read the facts I posted
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What is it with you Mikeyy as I stated above the proof in post # 23. He left his post and left his weapons behind and headed towards the enemy...

You are not going to play games with me.. Facts are facts. Unless the Military has changed the rules as I stated above..

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Maybe you have the proof he is a traitor. Don't just talk about the left, give us the proof if you have it.
The Bergdahl trial is coming up in February. Conventionally after Obama leaves office. I guess we'll have proof then.

Possibly another celebration. This time at Leavenworth, not the Rose Garden.
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You should go back and read the facts I posted
Mikeyy, if your "facts" are the Newsweek article you posted in 23, they leave a lot to be desired. More speculation than fact, and leave out a lot of the story.
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What is it with you Mikeyy as I stated above the proof in post # 23. He left his post and left his weapons behind and headed towards the enemy...

You are not going to play games with me.. Facts are facts. Unless the Military has changed the rules as I stated above..

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Are you sure your not confusing treason with desertion?

As I'm sure you must know, plenty of people go UA (unauthorized absence) in the military, unless you can prove intent its not desertion nor do you get listed as such if you crawl back within 30 days. I doubt many do it in the middle of Afghanistan but there have been thousands this century that just walked the hell off. Given capture, whatever Bergdahl might have done is mostly irrelevant.

And contrary to what Trump says, we haven't shot a deserter since WWII.

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According to the Pentagon, more than 5,500 military personnel deserted in 2003–2004, following the Iraq invasion and occupation.[41] The number had reached about 8,000 by the first quarter of 2006.[42] Another report stated that since 2000, about 40,000 troops from all branches of the military have deserted, also according to the Pentagon. More than half of these served in the US Army.[43] Almost all of these soldiers deserted within the United States. There has only been one reported case of a desertion in Iraq. The Army, Navy, and Air Force reported 7,978 desertions in 2001, compared with 3,456 in 2005. The Marine Corps showed 1,603 Marines in desertion status in 2001. That had declined to 148 by 2005.[42]

In the United States, before the Civil War, deserters from the Army were flogged; after 1861, tattoos or branding were also used. The maximum U.S. penalty for desertion in wartime remains death, although this punishment was last applied to Eddie Slovik in 1945. No U.S. serviceman has received more than 24 months imprisonment for desertion or missing movement in the post-September 11, 2001 era.[44]

A US service member who is AWOL/UA may be punished with non-judicial punishment (NJP) or by court martial under Article 86 of the UCMJ for repeat or more severe offenses.[1][45] Many AWOL/UA service members are also given a discharge in lieu of court-martial.[44][46][47][48][49][50]
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Mikeyy, if your "facts" are the Newsweek article you posted in 23, they leave a lot to be desired. More speculation than fact, and leave out a lot of the story.
I asked another member for proof. he hasn't given any and you haven't added anything to this discussion but critique.
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