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Old 10-04-2008, 09:39 PM
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I think that the question leads one to believe something true that simply isn't.

The question is "IS Bill Ayers a terrorist?". The answer is no. Had the question been "WAS Bill Ayers a terrorist?", the answer would have been yes. Let's further the analysis by asking the same type of question on a different topic.

Is George H. W. Bush a teenager? No. Was George H. W. Bush a teenager? Yes. Just because something was, doesn't mean it is and vice-versa.

I think that Ayers committed horrible crimes, does that mean he is still committing crimes? No. Now some will argue that once a terrorist always a terrorist. This is not true. History proves that this is not the case. Sadat, Begin, Quaddafi...

So from an academic point of view... No. He's not a terrorist.
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I think that the question leads one to believe something true that simply isn't.

The question is "IS Bill Ayers a terrorist?". The answer is no. Had the question been "WAS Bill Ayers a terrorist?", the answer would have been yes.
I gave you that very option (#3)...
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I didn't vote, cause there was no category for "Don't give a fluck what some old dude did to get chicks in the sixties".
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I think that the question leads one to believe something true that simply isn't.

The question is "IS Bill Ayers a terrorist?". The answer is no. Had the question been "WAS Bill Ayers a terrorist?", the answer would have been yes. Let's further the analysis by asking the same type of question on a different topic.

Is George H. W. Bush a teenager? No. Was George H. W. Bush a teenager? Yes. Just because something was, doesn't mean it is and vice-versa.

I think that Ayers committed horrible crimes, does that mean he is still committing crimes? No. Now some will argue that once a terrorist always a terrorist. This is not true. History proves that this is not the case. Sadat, Begin, Quaddafi...

So from an academic point of view... No. He's not a terrorist.
According to that logic, murderers aren't "murderers" anymore once the murder is complete...Which means everyone on death row is not a murderer...
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I gave you that very option (#3)...
No, because the option you provided had further wording that molested the connotation.

It has nothing to do with the statute of limitations and has everything to do with the evolution of the person.

A simple no would have been sufficient.
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According to that logic, muderers aren't "murderers" anymore once the murder is complete...
It's a bit of a different situation there considering the usage of the word. Normally we would say that a person who has murdered is a murderer. Is a person who has dressed up in drag once or twice for Halloween a cross dresser? No. Is a person who lies on very rare occasion a liar? Technically but we wouldn't call that person a liar in our language usage.

America associates with terrorists every day through our relationship with Israel, Lybia, Ireland, even Mexico if we are to adhere to your definition of the word terrorist.
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I would have to answer Yes.

Leader of the 1960s and 70s domestic terrorist group Weatherman
“Kill all the rich people. ... Bring the revolution home. Kill your parents.”

Participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972

Instead of taking a much needed dirt-nap he is
currently a professor of education at the University of Illinois.

In an interview done in 2001 when asked about the 30 bombings they committed he said "I feel we didn't do enough."
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I would have to answer Yes.

Leader of the 1960s and 70s domestic terrorist group Weatherman
“Kill all the rich people. ... Bring the revolution home. Kill your parents.”

Participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972

Instead of taking a much needed dirt-nap he is
currently a professor of education at the University of Illinois.

In an interview done in 2001 when asked about the 30 bombings they committed he said "I feel we didn't do enough."
There is no way you can understand the oppression of civil rights in this country at this time in history. Just protesting at all was against the law until some people got radical and changed the system. Police brutality was a stark reality in our country. Racially motivated murders, not only the much publicized, but pervasively, lead a bunch of sheep to nod in unison. To some
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...to stand still was to choose indifference. Indifference was the opposite of moral"
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