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Old 08-17-2016, 07:37 PM
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If you honestly believe that then I have the deed to the Brooklyn Bridge and some ocean front property in Arizona to sell you.Trump is not going to do **** to someone who was a guest of honor at his wedding and someone he gave over a hundred thousand dollars to. So you are only fooling yourself if you think a Trump presidency would convict and jail the Clintons. The Clintons are political royalty. Heck Ted Cruz could be president, and actual conservatives who loath and despise the Clintons could have a veto proof majority in the house and senate and nothing would still happen to the Clintons. There could be a video of Hillary molesting little kids and stomping on the heads of newborn kittens and nothing would happen to her.They would just ignore it, claim its a republican smear job or just do a planned parenthood job on the video by claiming it's edited even though they say they never saw it, pay phony experts to claim its edited and have their lapdogs sue the person who took the video. Donald Trump says he can shoot someone in Time Square and not lose any supporters, well that is nothing compared to what the Clintons can get away with.
All it would take is an honest non political DOJ and Hillary would have been charged. Obama saved her pure and simple. He has plans I believe that go beyond the Clintons. The SG of the UN is on his map. Then he, and Hillary can make America subject to UN rule. Or something along those lines...

I believe there is LOTS of evidence, the least of that being the e mails the worse being the blurring of the Department of state and the Clinton foundation, that would be more than enough for an honest DOJ to prosecute her for.

Trump is who he is. Not making apologies for that. He signed a pledge along with all the others. Now some in the party don't think that is good enough.

Trump is the only one capable of defeating Clinton. We should all support him, just for that alone at this point IMHO.

A Clinton presidency would be the end of the road for our country as we have known it. It will decline into a dark place full of non citizens who have come here solely to recieve our well fare support. Only the political elite of the left will benifit, the rest of America will be left to rott. Wealth will leave here for better places on the globe. Bankruptsy will ensue, and devour what is left.

You get the picture. Better vote for Trump when the day comes. Other wise you will have done nothing to stop the liberal left or the Clintons. I refuse to believe Trump is on board with that trailer park trash. Or any Democrate at this point.

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Old 08-18-2016, 03:51 AM
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All it would take is an honest non political DOJ and Hillary would have been charged. Obama saved her pure and simple. He has plans I believe that go beyond the Clintons. The SG of the UN is on his map. Then he, and Hillary can make America subject to UN rule. Or something along those lines...
It doesn't matter who the DOJ is.Cinton will never be charged. Joe Arpaio could be in charge of the DOJ and nothing would happen to Clinton

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I believe there is LOTS of evidence, the least of that being the e mails the worse being the blurring of the Department of state and the Clinton foundation, that would be more than enough for an honest DOJ to prosecute her for.
Sure anyone else who had that kind of evidence against them would be in prison being Big Bubba's butt buddy. But like I said in my other post there could be a video of Hillary Clinton molesting little kids and stomping on the heads of new born puppies and kittens and nothing would happen to her.


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Trump is who he is. Not making apologies for that. He signed a pledge along with all the others. Now some in the party don't think that is good enough.

Trump is the only one capable of defeating Clinton. We should all support him, just for that alone at this point IMHO.

A Clinton presidency would be the end of the road for our country as we have known it. It will decline into a dark place full of non citizens who have come here solely to recieve our well fare support. Only the political elite of the left will benifit, the rest of America will be left to rott. Wealth will leave here for better places on the globe. Bankruptsy will ensue, and devour what is left.

You get the picture. Better vote for Trump when the day comes. Other wise you will have done nothing to stop the liberal left or the Clintons. I refuse to believe Trump is on board with that trailer park trash. Or any Democrate at this point.

Regards, Kirk
Trump has supported liberal issues. Trump has praised and supported the jobs that some of the most loathsome liberal democrats and loathsome RINO republicans have done.Trump has donated to those loathsome liberal democrats and loathsome RINO republicans. He basically indirectly enacted those liberal and RINO policies that conservatives claim to oppose.Out of all the despicable liberal democrats and RINO Republicans the Clintons are Trump's favorite people.Out of all the liberal democrats and RINO republicans he has donated the most money to Hillary and her foundation.He has even had the Clintons as a guest of honor as his wedding. He is even on record saying Hillary would make a great president. To most people that would raise a red flag.
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Old 08-18-2016, 06:48 AM
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It doesn't matter who the DOJ is.Cinton will never be charged. Joe Arpaio could be in charge of the DOJ and nothing would happen to Clinton



Sure anyone else who had that kind of evidence against them would be in prison being Big Bubba's butt buddy. But like I said in my other post there could be a video of Hillary Clinton molesting little kids and stomping on the heads of new born puppies and kittens and nothing would happen to her.




Trump has supported liberal issues. Trump has praised and supported the jobs that some of the most loathsome liberal democrats and loathsome RINO republicans have done.Trump has donated to those loathsome liberal democrats and loathsome RINO republicans. He basically indirectly enacted those liberal and RINO policies that conservatives claim to oppose.Out of all the despicable liberal democrats and RINO Republicans the Clintons are Trump's favorite people.Out of all the liberal democrats and RINO republicans he has donated the most money to Hillary and her foundation.He has even had the Clintons as a guest of honor as his wedding. He is even on record saying Hillary would make a great president. To most people that would raise a red flag.
So who would be a better POTUS for you?

Both are bad, who is the worste choice?

I will always say Hillary Clinton. I know she is a terrible choice.

Trump I don't know so much.... He has no record, and might be ok..

So what is your take on that...

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Old 08-18-2016, 11:07 AM
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So who would be a better POTUS for you?
Neither.Darrell Castle or Gary Johnson would be a way much better choice than Trump or Clinton.


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Both are bad, who is the worste choice?
I think that is like asking do you want your right or left testicle smashed like a grape with a ball-peen hammer.You are going to be in the same amount of pain regardless of the choice you make. You are not going to feel good about any choice you make.


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I will always say Hillary Clinton. I know she is a terrible choice.

Trump I don't know so much.... He has no record, and might be ok..

So what is your take on that...

Regards, Kirk
The thing is he does have a record.He has record of donating liberal democrats and RINO republicans who in turn enacted laws conservatives don't like. He has a record of praising and supporting liberal democrats and RINO republicans which possibly encouraged people to vote for those liberal democrats and and RINO republicans who enacted laws conservatives don't like. Trump has a record of donating to the Clinton foundation and helped get Hillary Clinton re-elected with his donations.Those donations and support says he approves of the laws they enacted,the people they confirmed to various appointed offices and says he shares their ideology.
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Default Re: By how much will Trump lose to or beat Clinton by in November?

trump has all the voters he is going to get
only way clinton can lose is if she molests a child or something and even then gary johnson would gain more votes than trump. maybe some voters would stay home but not enough to make up the difference.
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Neither.Darrell Castle or Gary Johnson would be a way much better choice than Trump or Clinton.
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So your going to vote third party and throw your vote away on idealogical grounds. Your priciples are going to "make" you do it.

You WILL make a Clinton win more likely when you do.

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Old 08-18-2016, 03:52 PM
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So your going to vote third party and throw your vote away on idealogical grounds. Your priciples are going to "make" you do it.

You WILL make a Clinton win more likely when you do.

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Trump and his supporters are the ones guaranteeing a Clinton victory he's a horrible candidate even compared to Clinton. Thanks a lot Republicans.
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Trump and his supporters are the ones guaranteeing a Clinton victory he's a horrible candidate even compared to Clinton. Thanks a lot Republicans.
I have to agree. Had a well respected centralist Republican been nominated then Hillary Clinton would have easily been defeated. This wouldn't include extremist social conservatives or tea party Republicans that offend a lot of independent voters but there has to be a good centralist Republican of unquestionable integrity somewhere in the Republican Party.

Ironically the Libertarians Party found just such a Republican in Gary Johnson. We (the Libertarian Party) didn't have our own qualified person to run for president so we reached outside of the box in selecting a centralist Republican with some libertarian leanings.

Gary Johnson can't be the only Republican that appeals to the American people by being a centralist with an excellent integrity quotient.

On the flip side if the Democrats had countered with someone like Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders, both of which do have integrity, to a centralist Republican with integrity it would have made for a very interesting election. How both parties could dig in the bottom of the barrel so deep is really a reflection of the sad state of affairs for both parties. The only difference is that the Republicans dug much deeper in the barrel and found Donald Trump.
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So your going to vote third party and throw your vote away on idealogical grounds. Your priciples are going to "make" you do it.

You WILL make a Clinton win more likely when you do.

Thanks,

Kirk
Well, we have a choice of either voting for someone we believe in like Gary Johnson or voting against Donald Trump so which one do you prefer? If I actually thought my individual vote was necessary to keep Trump out of the Oval Office even I'd be forced to vote for Hillary Clinton. That's sort of a scary thought for me.

BTW I don't know of any Libertarian that would vote for Donald Trump. Trump's worse than the Tea Party Republicans that were openly opposed by the Libertarian Party.
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So your going to vote third party and throw your vote away on idealogical grounds. Your priciples are going to "make" you do it.

You WILL make a Clinton win more likely when you do.

Thanks,

Kirk

Yeah, that'll get him to switch to Trump.



Maybe next time build your guy up instead of tearing everyone else down.
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