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Polls Discuss Moratorium On Executions at the General Forum; Originally Posted by KnightOfSappho Even if one put in a max that could be spent per defense, there will be ...

View Poll Results: Do you agree with a national moritorim on all exicutions?
Yes -The system is deeply flawed. Put an end to the death penalty system now! 6 40.00%
No - Capital punishment is a necessary deterrent to prevent heinous crimes. Keep the death penalty! 5 33.33%
Other? 4 26.67%
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Old 11-11-2007, 12:37 PM
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Even if one put in a max that could be spent per defense, there will be those that can afford to meet that maximum and those that cannot. It would be MORE fair, but but still imperfect.
And this should not be the case!

Those in need of a public defender should have their defence "fully" funded and have access to the same unlimited resources available to the prosecution.Will this prove to be expensive? Yes but how do we set a price on justice? A public defence should include all the resources that are available to the prosecution!

They who can afford their own defence within the proposed caps are not the issue here.The issue here is a clear and present disparity within the "public defender" system.

The prosecution should not have an unlimited financial advantage over the accused.Today,the prosecution has that advantage over they who are forced to rely on a public defence.If and when a maximum cap has been set for the prosecution as well as the defence,both would have an equal access to the resources needed to present their arguments.Without such a system in place,the advantage is always skewed in favor of the prosecution and it's unlimited resources!

The system I propose need not be left up to the legislature [lawyers] who would be unlikely to pass such a measure.The SC could and should rule in favor of justice for all on an equal playing field.Without setting limits on how much these adversaries may spend at trial,there can be no real justice.We can and should do better,it's good to dream,now and then,dreams come true!

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I voted no, I would like to add to that that think it is also necessary as the ultimate punishment for committing the heinous of crimes.
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I did support the death penalty. I don't any longer. Besides the fact that most murders are crimes of passion. And at that moment the fear of facing a death penalty would seem to me to be negligible. Secondly, We have seen too many innocent people found guilty to be able to be confident we haven't killed an innocent human being. Only to feed our own lust for reprisal.
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I did support the death penalty. I don't any longer. Besides the fact that most murders are crimes of passion. And at that moment the fear of facing a death penalty would seem to me to be negligible. Secondly, We have seen too many innocent people found guilty to be able to be confident we haven't killed an innocent human being. Only to feed our own lust for reprisal.
Think of those inmates in Texas. One was freed after 26 years. Is there are any compensation due to the inmates being wrongly imprisoned?

Also, what about the ADA's who conducted the trials? If they were told to win at any costs, should they be held accountable for their actions as well, outside of a personal apology to the defendant wrongly convicted at their trial?

Seems to me that if any court apologizes to the defendant, such as the man after 26 years, I really do wonder if it comes from the heart of the judge or he is only speaking just for the whole state?
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I voted "Other".

However, I think a SPECIFIC moratorium should be applied in some states, like Texas. (Actually, Texas is the only one that comes to mind.)

A state that rules that the defense attorney being asleep during the trial is not grounds for inadequate counsel?
A state that has a separate system for fast-tracking executions?

But basically I think my thinking basically reiterates others having a concern for our justice system not performing well enough to have the powerful tool of execution.
These deficiencies in the system need to be fixed.
(SC described some of it here: http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/pol....html#post4996 )
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I did support the death penalty. I don't any longer. Besides the fact that most murders are crimes of passion. And at that moment the fear of facing a death penalty would seem to me to be negligible. Secondly, We have seen too many innocent people found guilty to be able to be confident we haven't killed an innocent human being. Only to feed our own lust for reprisal.
I heard, once, an interesting arguement that I couldn't counter.

'The death penalty is a bigger punishment for the family of the person than the person him/her self. The person is put out of his misery and has no suffering to deal with.'

I still don't know whgere I stand on DP since I agree with arguements on both sides.
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Let's put an end to execution. It's immoral and deeply flawed. Let us study the real reason of crime and make some logical solution to the problem.
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Let's put an end to execution. It's immoral and deeply flawed. Let us study the real reason of crime and make some logical solution to the problem.
I don't think anyone's capable of overturning humanity right now...
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