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rivrrat · #21 (**permalink**) 10-17-2012, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mlurp

You will have to wait on salty for this answer as I am not blaming anyone, yet.

I was asking you what forms people weren't getting on time.

mlurp · #22 (**permalink**) 10-17-2012, 02:07 PM

I answered you in post # 20 and the second question was for salty, which I made plain.

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Originally Posted by rivrrat

I was asking you what forms people weren't getting on time.

The forms to cast their vote in the upcoming election. They have to fill it/them out and send them back in a certain time period.

See my relpy in the last post on page 2 for more.

rivrrat · #23 (**permalink**) 10-17-2012, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mlurp

I answered you in post # 20 and the second question was for salty, which I made plain.

The forms to cast their vote in the upcoming election. They have to fill it/them out and send them back in a certain time period.

See my relpy in the last post on page 2 for more.

Your last post on page two says "You will have to wait on salty for this answer as I am not blaming anyone, yet." It's the one I quoted a couple posts up.

Anywho, yes, they do have to get their ballots however, the soldiers themselves have to request the ballots. If they don't request them soon enough, they're not going to get them soon enough. Also, absentee ballots can be counted late too. They need to arrive by Nov 16th. (Postmarked by Nov 6th)

Is there any link or anything to any story about folks requesting their ballots early enough and not getting them in time? I mean, there's still time. So I'm not sure how they could be "not getting them in time" when the time hasn't run out yet.

saltwn · #24 (**permalink**) 10-17-2012, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by faithful_servant

Here we go again... Is there a physiological condition that you have that prevents you from learning anything new that runs counter to your prejudices?

In any election the election officials stop counting votes when there is no longer a statistical possibility that the reaming votes will effect the outcome of the election. The votes that get skipped in the counting are heavily those that are late absenteee ballots. A huge percentage of these ballots are military votes, which came in at about 2:1 in favor of Pres. Bush. The numbers are about 3,000,000 uncounted votes, which equates to a 1,000,000 vote net advantage to Pres. Bush. This means that if ALL the votes had been counted, Pres. Bush would have won both the EC and the popular vote. No, I don't have a link, just a conversation with my wife's cousin who knows more about this stuff than most of us EVER will, since he's the guy who got Vote By Mail implemented here in Oregon and is currently working as an advisor to places where they are working on implementing VBM.

Yes absentee but I was also referring to early voting in many states.
If you are referring to Bush-Gore, yes the late military ballots were all counted. Baker got a judge to change that rule for that election.
My point was when all was said and done (without of course the people turned away who had similar names to felons ie,: Jimmie S. White/Jimmie L White) Gore won the popular vote and Bush won (thanks to Florida) the electoral college.
BR was saying she thought this time Obama would win EC and Romney the popular vote.

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Originally Posted by rivrrat

Your last post on page two says "You will have to wait on salty for this answer as I am not blaming anyone, yet." It's the one I quoted a couple posts up.

Anywho, yes, they do have to get their ballots however, the soldiers themselves have to request the ballots. If they don't request them soon enough, they're not going to get them soon enough. Also, absentee ballots can be counted late too. They need to arrive by Nov 16th. (Postmarked by Nov 6th)

Is there any link or anything to any story about folks requesting their ballots early enough and not getting them in time? I mean, there's still time. So I'm not sure how they could be "not getting them in time" when the time hasn't run out yet.

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Originally Posted by rivrrat
What forms?

Voting forms, so they can vote in the upcoming election. Some in areas where they do combat patrols either haven't gotten them or they are on patrol and won't have them filled out and sent in time.

What is it you're blaming them for again?

mlurp · #25 (**permalink**) 10-17-2012, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rivrrat

Your last post on page two says "You will have to wait on salty for this answer as I am not blaming anyone, yet." It's the one I quoted a couple posts up.

Anywho, yes, they do have to get their ballots however, the soldiers themselves have to request the ballots. If they don't request them soon enough, they're not going to get them soon enough. Also, absentee ballots can be counted late too. They need to arrive by Nov 16th. (Postmarked by Nov 6th)

Is there any link or anything to any story about folks requesting their ballots early enough and not getting them in time? I mean, there's still time. So I'm not sure how they could be "not getting them in time" when the time hasn't run out yet.

Some of them are on combat patrol or at forward combat bases and can't get their mail on time, even if they ordered the forms.

Thats why some in Congress are asking questions on this. My thinking is, if one was sent overseas they should some how be a system to get the forms to them well before any elections.

After all part of what they are doing is for this country, right?

rivrrat · #26 (**permalink**) 10-17-2012, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mlurp

Some of them are on combat patrol or at forward combat bases and can't get their mail on time, even if they ordered the forms.

Thats why some in Congress are asking questions on this. My thinking is, if one was sent overseas they should some how be a system to get the forms to them well before any elections.

After all part of what they are doing is for this country, right?

Well, there is a system. That's what I'm talking about. They have to individually go and request the forms. Then the forms are sent. Then they return them. The forms can be sent by mail, email, or faxed. Ditto for the return of them. And there was some sort of act passed specifically to facilitate and expedite military absentee voting. IIRC, it puts a person/office on each offshore base just for that purpose.

mlurp · #27 (**permalink**) 10-17-2012, 04:11 PM

What ever it does't work to well now does it? If it did we wouldn't be talking about it would we?

rivrrat · #28 (**permalink**) 10-17-2012, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mlurp

What ever it does't work to well now does it? If it did we wouldn't be talking about it would we?

I'm trying to figure out why we ARE talking about it. Hence my asking for any links to any reports regarding delayed forms. Especially since it's not too late as it is. I was asking for more information regarding your claim since I've not seen or heard anything about any offshore folks not getting forms "in time".

Xcali · #29 (**permalink**) 10-18-2012, 07:15 AM

You can go back a few months to when I first came here and find the post but I said then Obama was going to win with between 303 - 313 electoral votes.. That still stands. Obama has about a 70% chance to Willards 30%... People are not going to elect a guy like Willard who cannot tell the truth, who changes his position to fit the crowd, and who will take us back to the same policies that put this economy where it's at . Obama will win, and the Senate will remain in Democratic control. If the Democrats get a good turn out for the election There is a possibility that they can also take back the House.. then Obama can finally get his policies fully implemented and prove once and for all that Trickle Down economics does not work.

Take it to the bank and cash it.. Obama wins.

Dave1 · #30 (**permalink**) 10-18-2012, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Xcali

You can go back a few months to when I first came here and find the post but I said then Obama was going to win with between 303 - 313 electoral votes.. That still stands. Obama has about a 70% chance to Willards 30%... People are not going to elect a guy like Willard who cannot tell the truth, who changes his position to fit the crowd, and who will take us back to the same policies that put this economy where it's at . Obama will win, and the Senate will remain in Democratic control. If the Democrats get a good turn out for the election There is a possibility that they can also take back the House.. then Obama can finally get his policies fully implemented and prove once and for all that Trickle Down economics does not work.

Take it to the bank and cash it.. Obama wins.

Damn, you still got that good refer huh.......

Please, you're on your own island with that non sense. Romney is ahead not behind and were only two weeks out with one debate left.....

Obama is not as strong as an average incumbent and the country is looking for more change....

Don't bet the farm sweetheart.....

You need a place to live......

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