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View Poll Results: Should birthright citizenship continue?
Scrap it 3 13.64%
Keep it 9 40.91%
Change it (please explain) 10 45.45%
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Old 05-15-2008, 07:15 PM
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Shouldn't you move down under first, or have you an Aussia girl already lined up Mikeyy? Best your wife doesn't read this thread. You might die first.. lol
She knows. I told her. I don't keep an outside gal. I don't lie well. And one wife at a time is enough. Its just that Australia won't let me immigrate because of my age. I'm all of 52. So a wife or a anchor baby is my only ticket.LOL. I like my wife so I'll have to wait. I have no intentions of dying.
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She knows. I told her. I don't keep an outside gal. I don't lie well. And one wife at a time is enough. Its just that Australia won't let me immigrate because of my age. I'm all of 52. So a wife or a anchor baby is my only ticket.LOL. I like my wife so I'll have to wait. I have no intentions of dying.
I toast your dream. live long.
But how damn ugly will your ticket to down under have to be if you make it to say 85 and by luck (as women out live men by 3-6 years) out live your wife.
Now you do know if something happens to her before natural causes this thread might be used against you in a court of law. lol
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I toast your dream. live long.
But how damn ugly will your ticket to down under have to be if you make it to say 85 and by luck (as women out live men by 3-6 years) out live your wife.
Now you do know if something happens to her before natural causes this thread might be used against you in a court of law. lol
Shit! How do I erase this.
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And how do you see the open border thing playing out on the Mexican side? Just curious, cause I never actually considered an open border policy. Tell me more of your thoughts on this. How do you think it will probably look.
Do you think Mexico will eventually empty itself? Do you see a benefit to Americans?
I think people will come here to work and leave their families home, which will benefit their economy (lots of remittances coming in), and it'll benefit our economy (more tax revenue, higher labor participation rates, lower prices). No, Mexico won't empty itself out because for starters the workers coming in will likely come in as guest workers and just come and go, rather than stay. Also, the influx of workers into the States will create labor shortages at home, which will cause salaries to rise and eventually entice them back home.

There are issues that need to be tackled, of course, like the problem of Mexicans coming in to abuse our generous welfare system. That can be solved by heavily scaling back the benefits and requiring citizenship (as opposed to residency) to get them.

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I think people will come here to work and leave their families home, which will benefit their economy (lots of remittances coming in), and it'll benefit our economy (more tax revenue, higher labor participation rates, lower prices). No, Mexico won't empty itself out because for starters the workers coming in will likely come in as guest workers and just come and go, rather than stay. Also, the influx of workers into the States will create labor shortages at home, which will cause salaries to rise and eventually entice them back home.76.5% of the citizens of Mexico are Roman Catholic. That fact alone rules out they'll be having a labor shortage any time soon. https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat.../print/mx.html

There are issues that need to be tackled, of course, like the problem of Mexicans coming in to abuse our generous welfare system. That can be solved by heavily scaling back the benefits and requiring citizenship (as opposed to residency) to get them.

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76.5% of the citizens of Mexico are Roman Catholic
Yeah, same as Puerto Rico or any other former Spanish colony (or for that matter Spain itself). Your point?

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Yeah, same as Puerto Rico or any other former Spanish colony (or for that matter Spain itself). Your point?



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Babies. Rule against birth control?
Except most likely a lot of people don't follow it. I know they don't in PR.

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Except most likely a lot of people don't follow it. I know they don't in PR.

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Mexico has come a little ways I guess? But it is still a country filled with superstitious native lore. And it is very poor. The people tend to cling to their religion. Until pretty recently Catholicism was the state religion. Written or unwritten, I'm not sure, but everyone was Roman Catholic. And I am not saying it is bad to cling to your faith. Just making the point, I don't think they'll be running out of laborers any time soon.
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Mexico has come a little ways I guess? But it is still a country filled with superstitious native lore. And it is very poor. The people tend to cling to their religion. Until pretty recently Catholicism was the state religion. Written or unwritten, I'm not sure, but everyone was Roman Catholic. And I am not saying it is bad to cling to your faith. Just making the point, I don't think they'll be running out of laborers any time soon.
It is interesting that people point to countries where nativity and poverty are high, and assume that it is a religious belief that keeps the birth rates up. I can tell you that it is more about $$$ and ignorance more than anything else. Condoms are certainly not a popular word in any chauvinistic third world country, so it falls upon the woman to protect herself from unwanted pregnancies, and that can be expensive when there is no insurance, and where nothing is given out for free; not to mention that most don't finish the sixth grade (and you get sex ed starting in 8th or 9th). If the government were a little more proactive, they could certainly reduce the nativity rate - regardless of the percentage of the population that is Catholic.

Obviously it has to do with social standing, money and education. Not like 76.5% of the population were Mormon, then they'd be in trouble,
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