But if you look at the work ethic alot of these people have, not that i'm trying to create a stereotype, the kids that are birthright citizens can support themselves and their families comfortably. There is the issue of medicaid but thats a topic for another day...

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Now that doesn't mean i'm for this anchor baby b.s. i just think we should give as many people an oppurtunity to be a part of our society and culture as possible (but they better learn to speak the language too)

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But there are laws that must be enforced! Thousands of people the world over wait patiently to enter this country legally. Why should people who break our laws be given preference,what kind of message does that send? How many people can our system support before the safety net is torn to shreds? That is the reason for immigration law,society must be structured and order maintained. This is not 1898,this is 2008 and we have security issues that they did not have when immigration laws were written.I believe that people who enter this country illegally should be deported if they commit a crime and entering illegally IS a crime! Arrest and imprison employers who "knowingly" employ illegals and the illegals will self-deport.

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Yes, I can't imagine refusing to grant citizenship to a child born here. In fact I'd go one further and automatically grant citizenship to any illegal minor that has been in school here in the US for more than a few years. Not sure how many but if the kid basically grew up here they should be a citizen.

If we are not going to go about the business of going door to door, searching out illegals, and sending them back to their country then we are partially at fault for the plight of their children. You wouldn't blame a kid for the parent being an alcoholic, burglar, or any other type of criminal. There are lots of kids who grow up here and then are punished as adults for what their parents did, meanwhile no one effectively stopped their parents from doing what they were doing. I saw a show on this boy who was 19. His parents brought him here illegally at the age of 3. He grew up here. He only remembers ever living here. The US is home. After coming here his parents had 2 other children, both born here. Those children, his siblings, are citizens. Now the siblings were able to apply for college, apply for college loans, ect but this one kid is still legally an illegal so he's afraid to apply for anything for fear that he could get in trouble. He drives without a drivers license because he was afraid to ever go get one. This kid lives as an adult in fear for something that has nothing really to do with him. He is being punished for what his parents did. He got excellent grades in school but he can't go to college without fear and he can't get jobs without working under the table because he has no papers. Meanwhile his brothers and sisters are completely fine. He actually considered leaving the US to go make a life for himself in Mexico since he feels he can't live freely here or amount to much given his situation. But he doesn't know Mexico, doesn't know anyone in Mexico, has no family that he knows there. Here is his home and what is happening to him and folks that grew up here like him is outrageous. Something should definitely be done for people like him. He broke no laws. No one can hold a 3 year old accountable for illegally crossing a border.

I geuss what i'm not putting into words what i am thinking because i agree with you but i think that the children don't have a choice if their parents break the law, so they should have a choice where they want to live when they come to an age when they are responsible enough to make that decission. I know from the experiences of a friend that the actions of another family member can ruin the chances of my friend to ever become a citizen, but his younger siblings were too little to remain by themselves since they had birthright and he was allowed to stay and work towards his citizenship as long as he remained their legal gaurdian, so his father, the person who brought them over and his mother live in mexico and his brothers are now in school and he has become a successful rancher

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Understood but how does this "solve" the anchor baby issue? Who takes care of these children when their parents are deported? Or are you saying..we cannot deport "both" the parents of children who are potential citizens? If that's where you are comming from,we are right back where we started! The real "reason" we are in this dilemma is due to the fact that "both" big box parties see the illegals as "potential new voters and constituents"..they refuse to risk alienating them even at the expense of a failed safety net...

If you don't deport "both" parents..the anchor baby issue remains.The message we continue to send is this..if you can get your pregnant ass accross the border you are home free.We will support you and your "children" until you get on your feet.Also..what party will the illegals flock to? They will flock to the party that supports them with programs..the Democrat party! This is why the Democrats fight for the rights of the illegals and it's a long term smart move!

Now you know...the rest of the story..

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I'd say deport the parents and the child can only stay if they have a legal US guardian or they are 16+. If there is no legal US guardian the child must leave with the parents and then may return as an adult. But that's if and only if we ever actually start deporting people seriously. We don't seem willing and/or able to do that though. For children that are raised here, whether they were born here or not, we need to grant citizenship. If their parents successfully outwitted the system to the extent that a 3 year old illegal is now 18 then that 18 year old should be granted citizenship. Otherwise you are setting up a situation where you create an adult who has little choice in whether or not to be a law breaker. You can't expect a child who has lived here ever since they can remember to leave and return to a country they never really knew. It's just not right.

I could go along with this,it seems like a fair compromise..

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birthright citizenship...

Abdul Rahman Yasin

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Jeremiah Was An Albatross,just curious,what does this article have to do with birthright citizenship..

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