Should Congress Condemn Terry Jones,whose church burned the Quran? - Page 2

Spencer Collins · #11 (**permalink**) 04-04-2011, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MintJulep

I did. Thought maybe you'd heard more about it from another source or something.

No..I did some searching and I want to know "who" specifically is involved with this nonsense.

WallyWager · #12 (**permalink**) 04-04-2011, 11:26 PM

To quote John Boehner, which I never thought I'd ever do: HELL NO YOU CAN'T!!!

saltwn · #13 (**permalink**) 04-04-2011, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Spencer Collins

Should Congress Condemn Terry Jones,whose church burned the Quran?

They should put his azz in jail.
Try him for sedition.

MintJulep · #14 (**permalink**) 04-04-2011, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

They should put his azz in jail.
Try him for sedition.

In that case, we should arrest on retroactive charges, everyone who published the Abu Grape photos and anyone involved with protesting the wars, along with any other act which endangered lives.

Soldiers were killed because of such seditious behavior.

saltwn · #15 (**permalink**) 04-04-2011, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MintJulep

In that case, we should arrest on retroactive charges, everyone who published the Abu Grape photos and anyone involved with protesting the wars, along with any other act which endangered lives.

Soldiers were killed because of such seditious behavior.

Gave my argument for this here:
http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/new...tml#post280997
But I'll post it again since this thread is nearer to the subject:

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I posted on this in facebook and a blog. I may as well just get it over with here too
It sums up my views on this matter:
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Say during Vietnam, there was the ability for one individual to communicate to the world an action. Looking at the video of the burning, the pastor is flanked by the American flag and in fact proceedings appear to those not familiar with fundamentalist American churches, to be those of a courtroom.

The pastor is dressed like a judge, the proceedings mock an actual "sentencing" some may have seen from American high profile cases that were excerpted on YouTube. This guys knew exactly what he was doing imo, but even so, as I suggest, say this was during Vietnam. This pastor was contacted by President Johnson or Nixon and also by the top commander in the field and warned that such actions would endanger the lives of soldiers and operations in the field. So he goes on world wide media and burns the Vietnamese holy book or images while pretending to look like an American judge and flanked by an American flag in a mock sentencing. It would have caused disruption of our war efforts to say the very least. Say it was during WWII. Say he burned the Torah in such a mock trial fashion. The propaganda spun off it on both sides would have lead to changes in outcomes of treaties, field organization, and assistance from allies...

Now do you see what I mean? During my father's generation not only would the murderers of US personnel have been routed, but this man [Rev Jones] would have been held accountable for all the mayhem he caused with his actions.

Freedom of speech is one thing. Subversion in times of war is another.
The rioters should be tried, and Jones should be also.

Revere · #16 (**permalink**) 04-04-2011, 11:54 PM

Jones opposes radical Islam. Where is the "subversion" in that? You can't say the same about the Viet Nam era peaceniks, who were, themselves, communists.

Why appease people just because they want to kill you?

saltwn · #17 (**permalink**) 04-05-2011, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Revere

Jones opposes radical Islam. Where is the "subversion" in that? You can't say the same about the Viet Nam era peaceniks, who were, themselves, communists.

Why appease people just because they want to kill you?

Nothing to do with appeasement, nothing to do with freedom of speech. Nothing to do with peacenics. Sedition/subversion in war time is a very serious offense. Why would one wish to over look another's war crime/act of treason just because one agrees with the theme of his argument?

lurch907 · #18 (**permalink**) 04-05-2011, 12:13 AM

I checked "no", mainly because congress has a lot of important business they should be working on and this ranks slightly below "review DC area leash laws".

MintJulep · #19 (**permalink**) 04-05-2011, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

Gave my argument for this here:
http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/new...tml#post280997
But I'll post it again since this thread is nearer to the subject:

No hon, this has everything to do with the First Amendment. If Jones should be held for sedition, let's round up the entire staff of the NYT, Tagubu, everyone who published or participated in rallies that endangered our troops.

When you go down the road of trashing the 1st, you are throwing away your own right to free speech and you can't pick and choose who it applies to. It applies to everyone.

Spencer Collins · #20 (**permalink**) 04-05-2011, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

They should put his azz in jail.
Try him for sedition.

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

While I may not agree with what he did it's free speech and freedom of expression.

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