I am for it. But it should have consent to the relatives. Pay a respect for the dead ones.

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Start of a short article that sums up the reasons against opt-out.

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I agree with your lady. I also think the current opt-in system does not provide enough information (at least not at my local DMV). It's a little box you either check or you don't, so it's just as easy not to. I think it needs to be made an actual decision, as opposed to a box you can just skip.

I am all for donating my organs. I think almost everyone is aware that they must be "harvested" almost immediately after they 'pull the plug'. Hence, the decision to do so of course must be made while you are alive.

I don't trust doctors so much to do the right thing because of any oath, than for the fear of being sued. I also agree that the choice of the relatives should be taken into account (regardless of if you opted out or not).

But... in a society that has a hard time even donating blood, I don't really see that the general population would ever agree to something like this.

This is more or less what they have now... just with an opt in option

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They did a story not long ago on HMO's paying doctors to not completely fix people... do just barely enough... like a band aid. They get a bonus the less they do. Why would this be any different?

Yeah, but it is MY dead flesh, and I will choose if I want you to have it.

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Ok, but the whole idea of having any choice is to keep the choice from your relatives. They should not get a say, regardless of whether it is opt in or opt out only because that is taking away critical time needed to harvest those organs. Plus, the grieving that they are doing may make them hysterical, and a decision should not be made in that state.

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Well, isn't that kind of how it is now? If you chose to donate your organs, there is no question. If you did not choose to donate your organs (if you did not check the box, though this would imply you DO NOT want your organs donated) then your relatives can authorize your organs to be donated.

For example, I did not check the donor box on my license because my husband felt strongly he wished me buried whole. He is aware of my wish to donate my organs, but I didn't want to set it in stone because I knew he felt just as strongly to the contrary. So... if it ever comes down to it, he will have to decide if he wants to honor my wish of donating my organs, or if it is too traumatic for him he will not - either way it'll make no never mind to me, I'll be dead, .

I guess what I'm saying is you make a valid point, but the relatives should have some say at the very least if you did not expressly opt-out of donating your organs (i.e. if you are in the "default" category). I hope that's clear, all this opt-in, opt-out business is making me dizzy

I think the only thing we disagree on really on this one are the personal issues.

For instance, in your situation. To me it is your body, if you decide to donate organs, it is solely your choice. Your husband has no say. However, from a religious standpoint, I know that your husbands body now belongs to you, and yours to him.

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Really has nothing to do with religion, more out of consideration of his suffering, since at the time I will be dead . I am not particularly religious (though I am spiritual). I think if you fall into a "default" category and made a choice simply by not making a choice (i.e. if you do not check that box - like in my case - it does not necessarily mean you DO NOT want your organs donated), then your relative should have a say.

If the law is changed and you have to CHOOSE to NOT donate your organs (i.e. it is implied that otherwise you DO want them donated), then your relative should have a say. Besides, if people have to opt-out, I'm sure they'll have more than enough organs that they can let a couple of hysterical relatives keep their dead loved ones whole.

Otherwise, yes I do believe we agree. WOW, that's a small miracle

let's not make a habit of it

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