Sounds like a communist societies thing doesn't it? Why have a President at all if you swallow this logic?

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Agree/Disagree #0002; Senate Approval Required For Presidential Travel Abroad



...depends on what the definition of "abroad is" or...."is" is....

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Well, it's not in the Constitution, that's why I propose an Amendment.

But Presidents always have to make case to Congress if they wish to have a legislative agenda, after all. It's nothing new.

By the way, I don't propose this limitation for the Vice President. Maybe a good role for this Constitutional oddity would be as the nations penultimate negotiator, as opposed to the present their present role as a sort of human vulture.

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But whether or not a foreign trip is needed is NOT the responsibility of the Legislative Branch...

I wouldn't be surprised if Bush took the most trips to foreign lands, but that's understandable considering 90% of what he did as president was foreign policy...Bush was hardly a domestic policy president...

Obama's the exact opposite...Mostly everything he's done has been aimed at people within the borders (what's left of them ) rather than directed at people on foreign soil...

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Because the President has plenty to do at home? Because we don't allow military members or many other Federal employees unfettered travel? Because he is a single entity and therefore vulnerable? Because Presidents tend to abuse this sort of travel? Because the Senate will have to vote on Treaties anyway, so if they don't approve the negotiation, the Country is saved from a waste of time and resources?

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I expect that the Indians are wondering the same thing.

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Thank you for channeling President Clinton for us. How does it feel to have Clinton . . . oh, wait, I don't want to go there. Forget I said anything.

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But here's where you run into a problem...

Why ON EARTH would you allow the Senate to have the power to persuade other congressweasels to vote against a presidential visit to a foreign land when the Senators themselves can go free and clear whenever they want to?...

Imagine this scenario...

Bush wants to go to Isreal as a show of allince and partnership....The Senate says "No"...

AND THEN Senate Majority leader Reid (without having to confirm) goes to Lebanon as a show of alliance and partnership AGAINST Israel...

Congratulations!...You just handed the Senate foreign policy control while blocking the president's constitutional powers!...

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When are you going to return the blue dress?

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Actually, that wasn't the plan. The scheme was for the Congress and the President to get in each other's way constantly. (See the writings of James Madison on the United States Constitution, and John Adams' writings on the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts for clarification and illumination.)

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