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I stopped right there.
AARP benefits from this bill. Of course they support it!
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Correct, but you won't see healthcare getting better...

Why?...

because it's the TAXES in the bill and the CITS in Medicare that start immediately...NOT anything actually dealing with healthcare...
From a purely objective standpoint, something does need to be done about healthcare in this country. It's damned near impossible to run a business anymore because people look for health benefits and to offer them means subjecting yourself to possible 300% increases in the cost every two years or so. That's outlandish.

So what are new taxes going to do for businesses except drive them deeper into the red and cut more jobs. :

What's gonna happen here if this healthcare overhaul passes the way it is, is that every other area of the economy is going to suffer. More people without jobs, more businesses closing their doors, and lower tax revenues as a result.

But hey...if I twist my ankle shuffling through the unemployment line with the rest of America, at least I can wait 6 months to see a doctor over it.
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8. PROVIDES NEW CONSUMER PROTECTIONS IN MEDICARE ADVANTAGE— Prohibits Medicare Advantage plans from
charging enrollees higher cost-sharing for services in their private plan than what is charged in traditional Medicare.


10. CONTINUITY FOR DISPLACED WORKERS—Allows Americans to keep their COBRA coverage until the Exchange is in
place and they can access affordable coverage
In number 8, as I understand it providers are making a little extra money off the Advantage program? If I am reading it correctly, although it isn't fair to those who have Advantage, sounds like the providers have figured that in their budget and will have to re figure after the bill passes (if it does) the Senate.

And in number 10---I hope they do something about the cost of COBRA, as I know very few people who have been able to afford it.

But the rest of it makes me want to weep when I think if it had been in place for myself and many friends and family members over the years. A lot of full blown chronic illnesses could have been avoided or their effects greatly reduced by just these interim changes.
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Yep, let's drive them damn ole insurance company's out of business, afterall there can't be that many people working for them. Let's throw them in the street, piss on 'em! I'm with you salty!

GEEZ Louise! you not only want to increase taxes to get inferior health care you want to rise unemployment levels another percent or two! Yeah that should help us all out!
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Yep, let's drive them damn ole insurance company's out of business, afterall there can't be that many people working for them. Let's throw them in the street, piss on 'em! I'm with you salty!

GEEZ Louise! you not only want to increase taxes to get inferior health care you want to rise unemployment levels another percent or two! Yeah that should help us all out!
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so you like high unemployment, putting honest citizens out of work and inferior care......

says a lot about you salty!
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so you like high unemployment, putting honest citizens out of work and inferior care......

says a lot about you salty!
What liberal doesn't like to detract from the hard work of one man to offer inferior benefits to three others?
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The government has driven us another step closer to civil unrest, which will validate their call for Marshall Law.

What a horrifying state of affairs. Obviously, nobody has learned from history, which is destined to repeat itself.
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I stopped right there.
AARP benefits from this bill. Of course they support it!
Of course you did!
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In number 8, as I understand it providers are making a little extra money off the Advantage program? If I am reading it correctly, although it isn't fair to those who have Advantage, sounds like the providers have figured that in their budget and will have to re figure after the bill passes (if it does) the Senate.

And in number 10---I hope they do something about the cost of COBRA, as I know very few people who have been able to afford it.

But the rest of it makes me want to weep when I think if it had been in place for myself and many friends and family members over the years. A lot of full blown chronic illnesses could have been avoided or their effects greatly reduced by just these interim changes.
At least in regards to #8, for more info about Medicare advantage, go to http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ays-medicare-a for more info on that.

You're right, cobra is an almost unaffordable thing for most Americans.
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