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Old 05-14-2009, 03:37 AM
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The Obama administration is weighing plans to detain some terror suspects on U.S. soil -- indefinitely and without trial -- as part of a plan to retool military commission trials that were conducted for prisoners held in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

The proposal being floated with members of Congress is another indication of President Barack Obama's struggles to establish his counter-terrorism policies, balancing security concerns against attempts to alter Bush-administration practices he has harshly criticized.

The administration's internal deliberations on how to deal with Guantanamo detainees are continuing, as the White House wrestles with how to fulfill the president's promise to shutter the controversial prison. But some elements of the plans are emerging as the administration consults with key members of Congress, as well as with military officials, about what to do with Guantanamo detainees.

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R., S.C.), who met this week with White House Counsel Greg Craig to discuss the administration's plans, said among the proposals being studied is seeking authority for indefinite detentions, with the imprimatur of some type of national-security court.

Sen. Graham said he wants to work with the administration to pass legislation to increase judicial oversight of military commissions, but noted the legal difficulties that would arise.

"This is a difficult question. How do you hold someone in prison without a trial indefinitely?" Sen. Graham said.

The White House had no comment Wednesday about its detainee deliberations.
OF COURSE THE WHITE HOUSE HAS NO COMMENT!!

How do you think it looks knowing the current administration is (once again) discussing doing the EXACT OPPOSITE of EVERYTHING he campaigned for when it comes to terrorism?!?!?!...

Continuing drone missions after telling us all we're doing is a bunch of air strikes that are killing civilians?...Check

Signing an executive order with a loophole to keep Gitmo open after promised date?...Check

Going forward with military tribunals after demanding terrorists have the same rights to the American court system?...Check

Using the "state-secrets" defense in court cases to keep government information hidden?...Check

And now looking into indefinitely holding terrorists after telling us it was another black eye for the country and another of Bush's failed policies?...Check...

Look like someone's learning the hard way that being the QB isn't the same world as being the armchair QB...
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Obama Considers Detaining Terror Suspects Indefinitely

OF COURSE THE WHITE HOUSE HAS NO COMMENT!!

How do you think it looks knowing the current administration is (once again) discussing doing the EXACT OPPOSITE of EVERYTHING he campaigned for when it comes to terrorism?!?!?!...

Continuing drone missions after telling us all we're doing is a bunch of air strikes that are killing civilians?...Check

Signing an executive order with a loophole to keep Gitmo open after promised date?...Check

Going forward with military tribunals after demanding terrorists have the same rights to the American court system?...Check

Using the "state-secrets" defense in court cases to keep government information hidden?...Check

And now looking into indefinitely holding terrorists after telling us it was another black eye for the country and another of Bush's failed policies?...Check...

Look like someone's learning the hard way that being the QB isn't the same world as being the armchair QB...
Barack Obama... take away his drive to initiate universal healthcare, and you could hardly tell the difference between him and Bush.
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Obama Considers Detaining Terror Suspects Indefinitely

OF COURSE THE WHITE HOUSE HAS NO COMMENT!!

How do you think it looks knowing the current administration is (once again) discussing doing the EXACT OPPOSITE of EVERYTHING he campaigned for when it comes to terrorism?!?!?!...

Continuing drone missions after telling us all we're doing is a bunch of air strikes that are killing civilians?...Check

Signing an executive order with a loophole to keep Gitmo open after promised date?...Check

Going forward with military tribunals after demanding terrorists have the same rights to the American court system?...Check

Using the "state-secrets" defense in court cases to keep government information hidden?...Check

And now looking into indefinitely holding terrorists after telling us it was another black eye for the country and another of Bush's failed policies?...Check...

Look like someone's learning the hard way that being the QB isn't the same world as being the armchair QB...
Well then redd that must make you a big Obama supporter these days. If you think he is turning in to Bush you should be delighted.
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Lets see how much of this kind of thing we'll be seeing in the months to come:
Tennessee Guerilla Women: 81 Arrested in Guantanamo Protest at Supreme Court
Human Rights Groups Plan Gitmo Protests - washingtonpost.com
62 arrested at Guantanamo protest
Hip Hop Protests Guantanamo Bay | Hip Hop News > HipHopDX.com
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That is the first one I ever saw.
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Obama is a member of the CFR, and has skull and bones members in his advisory team... he and McCain were chosen before the primaries began, not that it would have mattered if one of the others had gotten the nomination... they're all working for the same organizations, they all have the same goals, they're all puppets that do as they're told - it matters not which one you vote for - they're all the same.
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Obama is a member of the CFR, and has skull and bones members in his advisory team... he and McCain were chosen before the primaries began, not that it would have mattered if one of the others had gotten the nomination... they're all working for the same organizations, they all have the same goals, they're all puppets that do as they're told - it matters not which one you vote for - they're all the same.
Thats like conspirisy talk...
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If the Iraq war ends before Obama is out in 2016, it is only because that was the plan regardless of who "won" the election, and has nothing to do with what Obama wants. The same with whether or not Gitmo closes or is relocated somewhere else under a new name... or any other major decision that is made during his presidency.

The script has already been written, before the actors were cast.

I just wish I could get my hands on a copy.
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If the Iraq war ends before Obama is out in 2016, it is only because that was the plan regardless of who "won" the election, and has nothing to do with what Obama wants. The same with whether or not Gitmo closes or is relocated somewhere else under a new name... or any other major decision that is made during his presidency.

The script has already been written, before the actors were cast.

I just wish I could get my hands on a copy.
What if?

As long as you like conspirosy, Obama is focused on the biggest threat to our economy. The healthcare system. And he figures to avoid the partisan battles until he gets a couple of things done. Is that a possible scenerio?
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What if?

As long as you like conspirosy, Obama is focused on the biggest threat to our economy. The healthcare system. And he figures to avoid the partisan battles until he gets a couple of things done. Is that a possible scenerio?
Tell the voters what they want to hear to get elected... do whatever the F you want to once in office... how's that for a "possible scenario"?

If you think he's flip-flopped on practically all his campaign promises just because he's trying to "avoid partisan battles" for the sake of the country, then you're as daft as the people that think things would be any different under McCain.

What, he doesn't have the resources at his disposal to shut down gitmo, release the abu graib photos, end the Iraq war or anything else he promissed his voters - and still work on the economy and healthcare? He has 60/100 senators, 65% of the house... he can pretty much do what he wants to... if it were up to him that is.
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