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Old 04-29-2009, 01:46 PM
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Here's Pelosi last week on her briefing on waterboarding...

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) today said congressional leaders were never briefed about the use of an enhanced interrogation practice, rejecting GOP claims that leadership was aware of the controversial tactics by late 2002.

Pelosi said the select few lawmakers who were briefed about handling of detainees from the war on terror, were then forbidden from discussing what they had learned with their colleagues. This produced an environment in which the top lawmakers were told of the existence of legal opinions supporting the rationale for waterboarding detainees, but never told that it was actually being used, according to Pelosi.

"Flat out, they never briefed us that this was happening," she said.
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Now even she figured out that lame excuse wasn't going to hold water(pun intended), so what's he NEW story?...

Pelosi: Officials said "they wouldn't use" waterboarding

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PELOSI: Well, first of all, let me say that perhaps we do live in an alternate universe, Porter and I.

Porter’s orientation is that he was a member of the CIA before he came to Congress and he speaks now as a former director of the Central Intelligence Agency.

CROWLEY: Is he wrong?

PELOSI: Perhaps he is seeing it from his perspective. If they say we have a legal opinion, it means we’re going to use it. That’s not how I heard it. They said they had a legal opinion. They said they weren’t going to use and when they did they would come back to Congress to report to us on that. But that’s how I heard that.
Now some might say there's not much of a difference, but there's a HUGE one...

In her first scenario, she claims that they said there were people who believed they could use waterboarding, but didn't say that they WERE using it or whether they were NOT using it...

And since it is known that they HAVE used it, you can't accuse the people briefing her of lying to her...Just not mentioning it either way...

But in her Waterboarding Defense 2.0, she now claims that they EXPRESSLY told her they weren't using it...

And since it is known that they HAVE used it, she is actually coming out now and calling those who briefed her liars...

These are the same agents that are supposed to have the politicians behind their back when it comes to defending this country...This shows that the CIA will NOT have politicians behind them, and, in fact, will be the very same ones they need to be wary of...

I can imagine the confidence of the CIA is at an all-time low...
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I'm sure her story will change a few more times before all this is said and done.
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Under the GWB administration, was there oversight of these by congress? Or was there just a dangling department unanswerable to anyone?
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Under the GWB administration, was there oversight of these by congress? Or was there just a dangling department unanswerable to anyone?
That's the issue...

The Senate & House Intelligence Committees WERE privy to what was going on...

That's why this investigation BS will backfire on them if ALL of the minutes and memos are shown...

A couple of the Dems are crying for blood without realizing that it's gonna end up hurting themselves just as much as their attempt at this contrived revenge (not to mention the CIA...Think they'll trust government officials ever again)...
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That's the issue...

The Senate & House Intelligence Committees WERE privy to what was going on...

That's why this investigation BS will backfire on them if ALL of the minutes and memos are shown...

A couple of the Dems are crying for blood without realizing that it's gonna end up hurting themselves just as much as their attempt at this contrived revenge (not to mention the CIA...Think they'll trust government officials ever again)...
That's not the only thing that's going to backfire. How many of these cats were on those housing committees...
I've been ASKING people to run for office. Buttering them up, schmoozing anyone who looks like they can tie a shoe lace. We need some non career politicians who go on back to their day job in four years.
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This has zero to do with the fact that its a crime regardless of who talked to who. And if Pelosi was involved she should go down as well. Hows that suit ya?
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This has zero to do with the fact that its a crime regardless of who talked to who. And if Pelosi was involved she should go down as well. Hows that suit ya?
Once in awhile you do make a point.
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Once in awhile you do make a point.
Like a broken clock I'm right twice a day.
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Are you pointing with the index or the fickle finger? It's hard to tell from here.
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